Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Does this apply to Members when they are serving, or even when your term is up and you are no longer a Member, is the Speaker still going to be required to table this information?
Debates of March 7th, 2002
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Buckland
Each declaration would only be tabled once. If you make a declaration in this Legislative Assembly, it would only be tabled in this Legislative Assembly.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, if it is only going to be tabled once, what is the purpose of having it tabled annually?
-- Laughter
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Chairman, the amendment would require that any Member of the 14th Assembly who opts into the plan, if this bill is passed, that declaration would then be tabled. If you are a Member of the 14th Assembly and you opt in, you only have to opt in once. If you were re-elected for the 15th Assembly, you would not be required to fill out another form.
However, any new Member coming into the 15th Assembly would also have to opt in, if they wished. It is not automatic. You are not automatically a member of the plan. They too would have to fill out a form. That would be tabled once only.
I think the terminology, each fiscal year, at the end of the fiscal year, would be just in case there was a by-election and a new Member came in.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am just wondering if this motion sets any kind of precedence within government, not just for elected officials, but it is a Privacy Act issue, is it not?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, no. I think because it is a question of whether or not the privacy applies, I do not believe it does, but I would defer to Ms. Buckland.
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Buckland
The Members of the Legislative Assembly can decide for themselves what information about themselves they want made public and what needs to be kept private. Certainly there are other declarations and other information that is required to be tabled.
For instance, under the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, information about your salaries and allowances and that sort of thing are required to be tabled each year as well. This is very similar to that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So this motion does not effect political appointees, such as deputy ministers who are within the Public Services Act but are political appointees? This motion does not affect their contracts and their pensions? Thank you.
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Peterson
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, it does not.
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Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am going to vote in favour of the motion. I did not really have a feeling about it until I heard Ms. Lee suggest that this public debate was a wonderful thing, but said that whether or not a person took the pension was a private matter. That will drive me to support this motion. Thank you.
Committee Motion 14-14(5): To Amend Clause 33 Of Bill 7 By Adding New Wording After Proposed Subsection 5.3 (carried)
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be supporting this. I think there is something very obvious here, and that is that there are two things that a Member can take from this. You can vote no, condemn the pension and that way you will get the political upside and political credit for voting no. Or you could take the pension.
I would suggest that possibly in a politically perfect world, you could do both, which maybe the act of privacy would enable, but I do not think that is fair. I certainly do not consider it a pressure tactic or a threat.
I suppose if you consider accountability a threat, then you might, but government has to be accountable. I think it should not do anything that it would not want to see the light of day and could not pass scrutiny. If you are going to sign up for this pension, I think that should be something you have to make known to the electorate.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am looking for some clarity here. When Members' remuneration or how we are paid and what benefits we receive are tabled, is the pension information not also tabled? Not the amount of pension, but is not who is on the pension and what plan they are on, is that not already public information?