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Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In view of all the hardship that was caused in Hay River and the time delay, if the Minister changed his mind about getting a legal opinion for the Hay River DEA to strictly Ministerial advice, why didn't he let the DEA know in Hay River that that's what he was doing?

Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

I think, Mr. Speaker, DEAs and DECs are in a position to get their own legal advice, which surprised me that they never did do their own. We recently, in response to a request from the DEA, advised them that if they wished to get a legal opinion, then they should be in the position to do so and they are free to do so, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Delorey.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I heard the Minister say that he's doing everything that he can to try and resolve the issue that exists in Hay River, and I heard him say that he's trying to do it through mediation. Is the Minister aware that there was a qualification from the DEA in Hay River for them participating in a mediation process to do with this legal opinion?

Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the conditions for mediation are usually difficult to adhere to when parties start putting conditions on it. One of the things we have to recognize is legal recourses are not the panacea to resolving very complex problems such as this one. They sometimes don't resolve anything. My feeling is that through mediation we can get on the table what some of the issues are; what is causing some of the differences. We need to know that. What are the problems that are faced by Mr. Butler, what are the problems that face the DEC? I think we need to know that and to put it on the table to see if we can't resolve it.

You know, Mr. Speaker, in schools we teach this to our children, if they have any difficulties amongst each other, we bring the parties together, sit them down and say can you resolve this conflict, and its collective collaboration to try and resolve it. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mr. Delorey.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister is not aware of the problems that exist between Hay River and Fort Smith, and the department does not want to know what the problems are. I must put that to him. But, Mr. Speaker, the Minister has said that he would like to address this through mediation. There is a qualifier from the DEA on mediation process. If the mediation process doesn't work, what is the department's plan to deal and resolve this issue?

Supplementary To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just on the comment that we don't know what the problems are, as usual we need to get behind the scenes and behind all the arguments to find out substantiation, so mediation is a good process normally. We feel that this is the first step that needs to be taken. Perhaps it may be the only step, but certainly we need to know what is causing this rift between the two parties that they can't resolve together. As I say, we use this process for all our school children in our schools, to come together, be collaborative and resolve problems, Mr. Speaker. If we can't do that, you know, we seem to rely on legal processes and determination that outside bodies have to resolve this. I am an outside body, but they're also elected bodies, Mr. Speaker, and they have a responsibility to try and resolve this amongst each other. I think that's my recourse to it, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Question 362-14(6): Education Governance Issues In Hay River
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to follow up on a line of questioning based on my Member's statement regarding community futures. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories, through the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, assumed responsibility for the community futures program approximately eight years ago. At that time, we were told it would be a program that could be accessed by all the communities in the Northwest Territories. Up to now certain communities have been left out, especially in my riding. Most of the communities in the southern part of the NWT have access, except for Fort Providence, Kakisa, Enterprise and Hay River Reserve. So I'd like to know why those communities have access or don't have a community futures program.

The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, the honourable Member's communities are not on any of the boards. We are aware of that and our department has been in formal discussions with mainly the chair from the Deh Cho Business Development Centre, although it's located in Fort Simpson. The attempt there is to try to see if they could expand their services to include the communities of Fort Providence and Kakisa. We are told that once the Deh Cho Business Development Centre Board meets next, it will raise this issue at that time. Thank you.

Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for his answer. I'm hoping to see this direction to the Southwest Territorial Business Development Corporation happen soon. I'd like to ask the Minister, as part of providing the service under whatever umbrella structure we're looking at, will we also be looking at having representatives on those boards? Currently we have no representatives on any boards that are set up.

Supplementary To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, the communities' futures boards have representation on the boards from all the communities. If we're going to provide services, the Fort Providence and Kakisa communities will have members on that board. I just wanted to add, Mr. Speaker, that in the interim these communities still have access to all the RWED services and the different grant and loans services that are delivered through the futures board through the department, and that's how we've been dealing with it. But if they want to be represented on the board, then we will try to make that happen with the Deh Cho board. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's quite different to go and access money from a community futures program which has a short, quick turnaround compared to going to access funding from the Business Credit Corporation which has a lengthy process. Up to now, those communities in my riding cannot go to a board in the Deh Cho or in the South Slave to access community futures money. Now I'm not quite comfortable, because the Minister has stated a couple of things here that I don't totally agree with. We were told six years ago the very thing that he's saying now. I'd like to know if he could give me a date. Can we get more specific, can we nail it down, can I get that information with a date attached to it? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to commit to the Member to try to have this oversight for something that should have happened with these two communities being represented on the board as soon as possible. I don't have any dates now, but I will find a date as soon as I can and provide it to the Member. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Question 363-14(6): Access To The Community Futures Program In The Deh Cho Constituency
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As soon as possible is clear as mud I guess. I'd like to ask the Minister if he could explain to me what is the holdup? Can he tell me why this process hasn't already taken place in six years? What's stopping this process from happening?