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Federal Health Care Funding For Northern Territories
Item 3: Members' Statements

February 11th, 2003

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to welcome my colleagues back to the House.

Today I would like to recognize the Northern Premiers. I would like to congratulate them for refusing to sign the health care accord that was offered to the provinces and territories by the Prime Minister.

By refusing to sign the health care package last week in Ottawa, Premiers Kakfwi, Okalik and Fentie drew national attention to the health care concerns we have in the North.

I would like my constituents to know that, as a territory, we will be getting health care funding from the federal government, but the Premiers from the Yukon, the Northwest Territories and Nunavut did not agree that the territories should be funded the same way as the provinces, on a per capita or per person basis.

It costs more to deliver health care in the North. We have high infrastructure costs and a small population base. We have large distances to travel for health care, and expenses quickly add up.

In the Northwest Territories, the government spends about $4,700 for every man, woman and child to provide health services. This is roughly $3,000 more than in the provinces.

The Premiers are asking the Prime Minister in Ottawa to create a special health care fund for the territories, which takes into account that our health care costs are higher.

I know that talks are ongoing with the Prime Minister, and hopefully a creative solution can be found.

On a territorial level, I think the same creativity is needed to address the inequity that exists between the smaller and larger centres in terms of health care services. I think all Members are aware that there is no base standard of health care services in the Northwest Territories. There is no consistency amongst health care in the smaller communities in the Territories. As well, residents in the smaller communities face different medical challenges than people in the larger centres. Medevacs are not uncommon and are very expensive. Without immediate access to health care providers, there is always the chance that a medical condition can become more serious.

The health care needs in the territories needs to be recognized as unique from the provinces. As a government, we need to recognize that the health care needs in the smaller communities are distinct from the larger centres. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty, and welcome back from your short stay in the hospital in the last few days. It's good to see you're back. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Federal Health Care Funding For Northern Territories
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, like many of my colleagues today, I'd like to express my extreme disappointment with the federal response to the Northern First Ministers on health care renewal funding; especially, Mr. Speaker, when First Ministers from all provinces had agreed that the territories needed special treatment and not financing on a per capita basis. I think Mr. Roy Romanow had already laid out the reasons to support such an approach to funding in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I was a Member of the 13th Assembly, and at the time, in the late '90s, Canada faced a deficit. And we weren't asked to help cut the national deficit, we were told we would help, and we were told by how much. The federal government unilaterally cut our transfer payments. And they didn't cut our transfer payments then on a per capita basis. The impact that we felt was in the area of $150 million. Mr. Speaker, this led to lay-offs, cuts in salaries and benefits of employees, and cuts to programs, including cuts to health and to education. So Canada, with disproportionate help from Northerners, has now wrestled the deficit to the ground and runs a surplus. So you might say, Mr. Speaker, that Canada in the '90s reached into our pocket and yanked money out when they faced a deficit. Now they have a surplus, and every time we get to be part of a federal program, they want us to get it back in little dribbles on a per capita basis.

Federal Health Care Funding For Northern Territories
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An Hon. Member

Shame.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I know I've talked to a number of my constituents and I supported the actions of Premier Kakfwi and the other territorial leaders last week, and I think this was the right move. It's time that we got tougher with the message that we deliver to Ottawa. Canada, the federal government owes northern residents more attention and a fair share of nationally funded programs. And we must work together to get that message delivered. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we eagerly await the Finance Minister's presentation of the budget this week, and I know the public does as well, but we've been told, I think quite clearly, not to expect any surprises and not to expect any quick-fix solutions. We know, Mr. Speaker, that we're struggling with a widening gap between our expenditures and revenues, and it's certainly going to take a better deal from the federal government if we hope to turn this tide.

Mr. Speaker, I think that these are the facts and I don't believe they're in dispute. However, there has been quite a bit of discussion recently about whether or not if indeed the Prime Minister gets it or not. Does the Prime Minister understand our unique challenges, Mr. Speaker? I can't be sure, but I'm certain he does get this, Mr. Speaker, he gets the sad fact that we only have one MP. So let's not sell the man short. I don't think that one could stay at the top for that long without recognizing the political realities of the game.

How do we make a compelling argument for change? The answer, I think, at least part of it, Mr. Speaker, is to start to build alliances and start to build partnerships. I think that that's something that indeed our Premier and the other Premiers of the territories have begun this week on our behalf. It's good to see.

As well, Mr. Speaker, we know the business coalition, a group of business leaders here locally, have begun to seek that out by reaching out to their Alberta business colleagues and have realized that the message in Ottawa has been falling on deaf ears and they recognize that it's time for another approach. So I hope we've begun the course that will lead to some fruitful results, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to congratulate as well as my colleagues, our Premier and the Premiers of the other territories for their hard work this week. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Passing Of Well-respected Weledeh Elders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, this past year, the Weledeh constituency has suffered the loss of some of our well-respected elders. Most recently, elders who lived in Ndilo and Dettah and who have passed on include Michel Sikyea, famous for the million-dollar duck; Celine Tsetta; and, Phillip Crapeau. It's important that we recognize and celebrate the contributions that they've made to the people of the North. As elders, they were our natural leaders. They shared their wealth and wisdom with younger generations and helped to prepare them for their role as leaders in the communities. These elders offered guidance to the parents and children living in the communities. They also played a big role in the area of preserving and teaching Dene culture and helping younger generations to grow and benefit from not only the traditional lifestyles, but from new development in the North. Most importantly though, they help to confirm Aboriginal rights. They did this each in their own way and those are rights that we enjoy today. Our elders who have passed on are not forgotten. By making this Member's statement, I hope that in a small way, I am helping to record their names in history. This Member's statement is made in memory of elders Michel Sikyea, Celine Tsetta and Phillip Crapeau. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to recognize my nephew Eric Nitah who lives in Yellowknife and works for Ekati and my niece Katie Nitah who is up here visiting from Saskatoon. Welcome home. As always, Mr. Speaker, I recognize those constituents of mine who are watching on television in Lutselk'e or Deninu Kue. Mahsi cho.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a few people in the Gallery. First of all, my mother, who usually watches me on television, but today she chose to join me. My mother Taejeong Lee and another gentleman who is here from Korea. He has been volunteering with the seniors and he will be returning to Korea. He came to learn English and he's been a great help to the seniors. His name is Danny Lee in English, but actually his name is Hyuk Joon Lee. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure this afternoon to recognize Nicole Firth, my constituency assistant, and also Mr. Harold Cook, my new executive assistant. Welcome to the Gallery.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize two former constituents of mine who now reside in Alberta. Larry and Thelma Babiuk, who are in town awaiting the birth of their newest grandchild.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Jak sja majesh (sic). Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Ootes.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I have a number of people I would like to introduce and I would like to introduce my wife Margaret, who is in the Gallery today. Also, in the Gallery is Katherine Youngblut, Ed Jeske, Esther Braden, Nancy Gardiner and Barb Hood. Barb is the executive director of the NWT Seniors' Association. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the Gallery. Any further recognitions of visitors in the Gallery? I would like to take the opportunity to thank people that are in the Gallery for coming to see your Legislative Assembly today, our first day. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am sorry, I thought you had seen me. I would like to recognize a very hard-working, dedicated constituent who keeps me on my toes all the time, Major Karen Hoeft. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Yes, indeed. She would not have gone unnoticed. I was just about to recognize her. Any further recognition of visitors in the Gallery? The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I would like to take this time to recognize my assistant Sherry Landry-Braun and also Mr. McLeod's assistant and also former Inuvik board member and someone who I have worked with in the past on the Mackenzie Delta Regional Council some time ago, Mr. Harold Cook.

---Applause

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. Further recognition of visitors in the Gallery? Last call. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 4-14(6): Federal Health Care Funding For Northern Territories
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Mr. Speaker, my questions are regarding the federal health care funding and are for the Minister of Health and Social Services. Mr. Speaker, listening to the media reports, something that the federal health Minister Anne McLellan is saying is bothering me somewhat. She has been recorded to say that she will be meeting with the three Premiers to implement the accord. There is no mention of her willingness to consider what's been the demand of the territorial Premiers to revisit the funding formula. So I would like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services, what is his knowledge of what his counterparts are willing to do for the territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.