Mr. Chairman, approximately $400,000 of that relates to assuming responsibility for water and sewer services at Rae-Edzo and there are some other increases there that reflect projected costs for services in the other communities as a result of increased costs in labour and materials. Then there is the increased cost for the additional three percent over and above what was being charged to communities before for administration costs.
Debates of March 11th, 2003
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Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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Rattray
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think he answered my question. My question is could I have a breakdown of what the $1.209 million is for? What is the actual cost breakdown; where does that money go?
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Rattray.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, I can give that breakdown by community if that's what he is asking.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Yes, I would like to know where this $1.2 million is going and how much is going into my riding.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Rattray.
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In Aklavik the projected revenue for 2003-2004 is $108,000. In Tsiigehtchic, the projected revenue is $47,000. In Fort McPherson, projected revenue is $676,000 and in Rae-Edzo the projected revenue is $378,000.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, I gave a copy of this to the hamlet of Fort McPherson. They were not aware that they would have to pay for that increase with regard to their process. This was not budgeted as part of their budget process. Do you just unilaterally charge administration fees and not allow for the communities to build the fees into their budgetary process, so that they know that this amount will have to be paid and they can budget for it? The budget they have is the same amount they received last year, not knowing there would be an additional cost of $676,000 that will be charged back, plus a nine percent administration fee. That was not planned for. I would like to ask the department again what have you done to inform MACA and the communities that this increase in service fees will be attached to the bill that they will receive this year from the Department of Public Works?
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Minister Steen.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I believe in MACA's estimates, there was $250,000 more for Fort McPherson to cover these costs.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, knowing there have been supplementary appropriations that have come in the last couple of years because of chargebacks or costs that weren't part of the hamlet's expenditures where they have to come forth with a supplementary, why is there such poor planning in this area when it comes to burdens on municipalities, that they have to restructure their budget. Sure, you are going to give $250,000 to the community, that $250,000 is probably for expenditures made last year. For Fort McPherson, you had $676,000 in the budget, so they are still short $400,000. Where do they get that?
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Rattray.
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, the $676,000 is total revenue we anticipate we are projecting that we would be getting from Fort McPherson for water services. The community is already base funded, plus they obtain revenues from the sale of water to consumers in the community. Those two sources, their base funding from MACA and the fees they charge for consumption of the water, provide the majority of the dollars that are required to pay for the services that we provide, plus the truck services they provide in the community. A large chunk of the increase has to do with the truck hauling that's taking place now. Again, we are not completely sure with the new system what will be the ongoing operating costs for both the truck system and the operation of the new truck fill station. We are not completely sure what the ongoing operating costs will be, which is why we have been consulting with the community and with MACA on a regular basis over the last year to try to determine some of those costs and to try and ensure the community is not caught short.
MACA has provided funding in the current year and is proposing to provide funding in the next year, again to ensure that the community is not caught short. So the community has been aware of all of these costs on an ongoing basis. What we haven't been able to do is finalize what an ongoing budget figure will be for them because we need some experience with operating the plant, with operating the truck haul before we can provide some solid numbers. Both MACA and Public Works have been working very closely with the community to try to determine those and to make sure there are adequate resources available.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
With regard to your comments, you said there was $400,000 going to Rae because of the three percent increase. What's the three percent increase?
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Rattray.
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, the three percent increase is the difference between the six percent administration fee we were charging before and the nine percent administration and planning and management fee we are planning on charging beginning on April 1st.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Krutko.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Just getting back to Aklavik, you had $108,000. What is the $108,000 for? Is that the administration fee for providing the service in Aklavik?
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Rattray.
Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, the $108,000 is the total cost for providing the service in the community.