Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I could read off the names of the communities by product, if the Member wishes. Would he like all products or was there one specifically he was looking for? We have six or seven different products. I could read them all if he wishes, but maybe he's only looking for a couple.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the deficit we are facing in this area, it deals with all products so let's just stick with that area for now.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can read them off or we could provide copies.

Mr. Chairman, just for the record, maybe he could read them off or just stick with diesel and gas. Those are the two most utilized gas products in the communities that I represent. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will do the P50 heating and the gasoline. This is a subsidy that just would reflect the operations of PPD. It wouldn't reflect any capital infrastructure.

In Lutselk'e, Mr. Chairman, for gasoline, we are providing a subsidy of 11.9 cents a litre and for P50 heating, there's a positive subsidy of 2.94 cents a litre. In Wha Ti, we have a positive subsidy of 1.78 cents a litre for gasoline and 14.56 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Rae Lakes, we have a subsidy of 2.6 cents a litre in gasoline and 10.72 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Snare Lakes, we have a positive subsidy of 2.32 cents a litre in gasoline and a subsidy of 17.66 cents a litre in heating fuel. Correction, Mr. Chairman, in Snare Lakes we have a subsidy of 15.64 cents a litre in gasoline. In Jean Marie River, we have a positive subsidy of 2.32 cents a litre in gasoline and a positive subsidy of 3.74 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Nahanni Butte, we have a subsidy of 5.04 cents a litre in gasoline and we have a positive subsidy of .86 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Trout Lake, we have a subsidy of 4.03 cents a litre in gasoline and a subsidy of 6.71 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Fort Good Hope, we have a subsidy of 13.65 cents a litre for gasoline and .94 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Tulita we have a subsidy of 6.53 cents a litre in gasoline and a positive subsidy of 10.22 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Deline, we have a 5.48 cents a litre subsidy in gasoline and a subsidy in heating fuel of 14.49 cents a litre. In Colville Lake, we have a subsidy in gasoline of 24.98 cents a litre and in heating fuel of 11.45 cents a litre. In Tsiigehtchic, we have a subsidy provided for gasoline of 18.37 cents a litre and a 10.66 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Sachs Harbour, we have a subsidy in gasoline of 26.49 cents a litre and 9.11 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Paulatuk, we have a subsidy in gasoline of 17.33 cents a litre and 10.65 cents a litre in heating fuel. In Holman, we have a subsidy for gasoline of 17.07 cents a litre and for heating fuel it's 5.01 cents a litre. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if we could get an explanation of the difference of a positive subsidy and a straight across subsidy.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A positive subsidy is the amount of money, the price over and above the total cost to deliver the product, so it would be like a profit.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, so in layman's terms that means that some communities are subsidizing other communities so the petroleum products division can provide subsidized delivery of petroleum products in the communities mentioned. Is that correct, Mr. Chairman? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess that could be an assumption somebody could make but there is really only one community that doesn't have any product subsidized out of the 15. Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, I'd ask which community but that is not important. I'm wondering, Mr. Chairman, if these numbers are consistent in the last few years. The reason I ask is that maybe it's time the government got out of the petroleum products division and addressed the need for essential services in another way. FMBS could work with these communities so that a business could be established there, recognizing the consistent nature of the subsidies over time and addressing those needs directly from the Financial Management Board perspective, eliminating the need for the petroleum products division entirely from the government. Has the government or the Minister ever considered doing something of that nature? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.