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Honourable Roger Allen, Honourable Jim Antoine, Mr. Bell, Mr. Braden, Mr. Delorey, Mr. Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Joe Handley, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee, Mr. McLeod, Honourable Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Nitah, Honourable Jake Ootes, Mr. Roland, Honourable Vince Steen

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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Saturday 8, 2003, is International Women's Day. Yesterday in the Great Hall, the Status of Women Council of the NWT recognized and honoured women in the Northwest Territories who are dedicated and work hard to improve the lives of women and families in their community. These women are, by their actions, positive role models for all of us and especially for our youth. The five winners of the 2003 Wise Women Awards are: Lena Anikina of Tuktoyaktuk; Edith Squirrel of Fort Providence; Florencia Dacanay of Yellowknife; Janet Grandjambe of Fort Good Hope; and, Lesley Paulette of Fort Smith.

Congratulations from the Members of the Legislative Assembly. Congratulations.

---Applause

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements.

Minister's Statement 32-14(6): Deh Cho Bridge Act
Item 2: Ministers' Statements

March 6th, 2003

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, later this afternoon I will introduce a bill entitled the Deh Cho Bridge Act.

As I know the Members of this Legislature appreciate that the partnership proposal to build a bridge over the Mackenzie River at Fort Providence is a new departure for the Government of the Northwest Territories. A private party, the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation, has offered to raise the capital, design, build, operate and maintain a substantial piece of highway infrastructure. In return, the government will pay the corporation for the bridge over a 35-year period, largely from toll revenues collected from the traffic crossing the bridge and savings from discontinued ferry operations and the winter ice crossing.

Under the proposed arrangement, Mr. Speaker, the private partner will perform many of the functions normally performed by the Department of Transportation under the authority of the Public Highways Act. The Deh Cho Bridge Act is a piece of enabling legislation that will authorize the Minister of Transportation, on behalf of the government, to enter into the proposed agreement with a private party who will act as a full and equal partner with government for the term of the agreement. Without the provisions described in the act, the Minister does not have the authority to commit the government to the contemplated partnership agreement.

Mr. Speaker, in anticipation of the present negotiations coming to a successful conclusion, I am introducing this bill to put the necessary authority in place so that when negotiations are concluded our government can enter into a binding agreement with the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation.

This bill authorizes the Minister of Transportation to collect tolls from vehicles crossing the bridge. Toll revenue is an essential element of the corporation's proposal and will determine the financial viability of the project. Importantly, it is the Minister on behalf of government, not the private partner, who will set and collect the tolls. In the public interest, it is the Minister and the government, accountable to this elected Legislative Assembly, that retain control over the toll charges and their collection.

As I said in the beginning, Mr. Speaker, the Deh Cho Bridge partnership is something entirely new to the NWT. I think private/public partnerships have significant potential as a vehicle for advancing other important public projects. Building a bridge over the Mackenzie River will be one outstanding achievement by itself. Achieving it through a successful partnership with the Fort Providence Combined Alliance will be a second accomplishment.

I hope the Deh Cho Bridge Act, as the enabling instrument for a private/public partnership, may prove the template for many more similarly successful ventures in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Minister's Statement 32-14(6): Deh Cho Bridge Act
Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent.

Remarks On International Women's Day
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Tomorrow, as you have noted, March 8th, is International Women's Day, a day to recognize the accomplishments of women and to reflect on the challenges that still lie ahead for them. For over 90 years, International Women's Day has been a symbol of women's efforts to shape a better world, Mr. Speaker. In 1977, the United Nations passed a resolution to officially recognize International Women's Day. Unfortunately, there are still far too many challenges ahead for women, with family violence and violence against women among the biggest. I commend Minister Allen for announcing last week his department's commitment to bring forward legislation I have long called for, that of the Family Violence Prevention Act for the June sitting of this Assembly.

In circumstances of family violence, this sort of legislation will more often allow women to stay in their homes, in their home communities, where they have support networks. It will give the police another tool to combat family violence that is long overdue.

In my constituency, Mr. Speaker, there's a women's shelter called Alison McAteer House. In spite of our public declarations in support of zero tolerance for violence, shelters like Alison McAteer House are too busy all the time. They, like the other shelters in the NWT, still turn women and children away because they are full. I would like to give my heartfelt thanks to those frontline workers who deal with victims of violence and who work to support them at shelters like Alison McAteer House.

Mr. Speaker, we have a number of great organizations in the North that work to improve women's lives including the Native Women's Association, the Status of Women Council of the NWT, the Centre for Northern Families, the YWCA, and, as I mentioned, Alison McAteer House and the shelters in outlying communities. They can all be recognized.

Mr. Speaker, I, too, would like to extend my congratulations to the Status of Women Council and the Wise Women Awards program. It is important that we celebrate and recognize those women who have been leaders in their communities and in the North. I would especially like to congratulate the recipients of the Wise Women Awards. It's unfortunate that a former constituent Florencia "Flory" Dacanay passed away this past December before being awarded that recognition. Flory's husband, Angel, was in the Great Hall to accept the award on her behalf. Mr. Speaker, she was a woman devoted and dedicated to improving the lives of those who came into contact with her and she will be missed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

---Applause

Remarks On International Women's Day
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this being Friday, I would like to take a light hearted approach to my Member's statement today and speak about the IRC or the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Native Hockey Tournament that was held in Inuvik in the previous weekend. Mr. Speaker, there were a number of teams from communities from the Western Arctic region: Holman, Paulatuk, Sachs, Inuvik, Tuktoyaktuk, Fort McPherson and Aklavik. In the A division, the victors were Northwind, out of Inuvik and BeauDel Posse also out of Inuvik. and third place was EGT, that's Eddie Gruben's Transport out of Tuktoyaktuk. In B division the winners were Tuktoyaktuk, Fort McPherson came in second and Wietzel Solar Bears out of Inuvik came in third. Sadly, Mr. Speaker, I would like to say that the Inuvik Old Dogs of this year weren't able to defend their championship, Mr. Speaker. The old legs and lungs were not quite able to hold back the tide of the youthful, energetic opposition.

I must say, Mr. Speaker, we didn't go down with out a fight. Mind you we didn't fight, we were unable to, but we were able to put up a good rush and in our first game we tied 2-2 against Holman; in the second game, we tied 3-3 and, unfortunately, in our third game, the youthful crew from Fort McPherson beat us 4-3 in a very close game that went back and forth. So I must hand it to the Old Dogs, we went out, we tried and, unfortunately, our legs and lungs weren't there this year. Our team leader said that in training camp this summer, we are going to get back to work and lose some pounds and try to pick up some speed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' Statements. Mr. Delorey.

Awareness Of Exploitation Of Women During International Women's Week
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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I ask today to bring recognition to International Women's Week being held this week, and, in particular, International Women's Day being celebrated throughout the world, March 8th. Mr. Speaker, the Canadian theme for this year's International Women's Day is worldwide women surfing the digital revolution. With the advent of the World Wide Web, Mr. Speaker, It has opened up a whole new world of digital communication for people throughout the world.

While the Internet has brought important social and economic benefits with it, we must be very careful of the risk it poses to women. Mr. Speaker, I have spoken in the House of the need for stricter regulations against the use of pornography on the Internet. Currently, Mr. Speaker, there are over 300,000 pornographic Web sites on the Internet. Mr. Speaker, I believe very strongly that sexual exploitation of women must end. Our society has made some strides towards this goal but far more has to be done. Mr. Speaker, our society appears to have become desensitized to graphic images and that is very disturbing, Mr. Speaker. We need to stand up, Mr. Speaker, and make the point known that sexual exploitation of women cannot be tolerated.

Mr. Speaker, in recognition of International Women's Week, I would like to publicly thank all the people who are diligently working to eradicate sexual exploitation of women in our society. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Awareness Of Exploitation Of Women During International Women's Week
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' Statements. Ms. Lee.

Rcmp Training Ineligible For Student Financial Assistance
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to speak about the student financial assistance policy that currently makes students attending the RCMP training academy ineligible for grants or loans. I have discussed the matter with the Minister and the rationale he has given me is that it is because this program is not recognized as a post-secondary institution. I wish to advise him that I have information that suggests otherwise and I would urge the Minister to reconsider this unfair and irrational treatment.

Mr. Speaker, on the Web site of the RCMP, I find the following and I quote, "The training academy is a designated post-secondary institution in the province of Saskatchewan. The training academy has been certified as an educational institution for the purpose of the Income Tax Act since January 1997." Therefore, incoming cadets are eligible to receive student loans and/or have their loan payments suspended while attending the cadet training program.

Mr. Speaker, another reason for ineligibility given by the Minister is that the RCMP pays for the full training cost. Once again, this is not entirely correct and I would like the Minister to reconsider this position as well. I find other information on the RCMP Web site, Mr. Speaker, and I quote, "Cadets coming to the training academy are responsible for their own expenditures. It is recommended that cadets budget a sufficient amount for the purchase of academic supplies, uniform items, foot wear, equipment, maintenance supplies and spending money during their stay." A recent survey of the cadets indicated that they spend an average of $4,600, which includes a trip home while at the training academy.

Mr. Speaker, the important point is that the student financial assistance is designed to help students obtain post-secondary education and the program should make an effort to include legitimate pursuits in that way and not to find ways to exclude post-secondary education.

Mr. Speaker, I have pursued this a lot in this session and the Minister has stated over and over and over for ineligibility because the rest of Canada does not recognize it. However, on this one, Mr. Speaker, it is clear that we have information that suggests that this is a post-secondary education and I urge the Minister to revisit it and change the policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Rcmp Training Ineligible For Student Financial Assistance
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Nitah.

New Metis Health Benefits
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this morning I would like to speak about the new Metis Health Benefits Act that we passed yesterday, which makes the Northwest Territories the first jurisdiction in Canada to recognize M‚tis health benefits 100 percent. This is the first jurisdiction in Canada to recognize that the Constitution recognizes M‚tis as aboriginal people at the same level as status Indians and Inuit. The M‚tis people are very happy that this bill passed in this House, and are happy with this government for having the strength and dignity to give them that aboriginal right.

On a related note, the M‚tis Nation opened their office here yesterday in Yellowknife to represent the M‚tis from the South Slave in their claims process. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to make a small adjustment, it is a policy, not a bill. The policy states that any M‚tis who needs medical coverage will be paid 100 percent by this government only if they cannot access other insurance, such as that provided by an employer. So just a message for the M‚tis people in the Northwest Territories, starting April 1st, 100 percent of your medical expenses will be covered. I would like to congratulate the Minister of Health and Social Services and the Government of the Northwest Territories for taking the leadership role in getting this done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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New Metis Health Benefits
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Handley.

Recognition Of The "snow King" Anthony Foliot
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, this morning is one of the coldest we've seen this winter in Yellowknife. It is a very appropriate day to acknowledge the spirit and enthusiasm for winter shown by one of my constituents and his cheerful band of volunteers. I'm speaking of none other than Anthony Foliot, the widely proclaimed Snow King of the North. Needless to say, I am very proud to be the MLA for the only constituency in the Northwest Territories with a reigning monarch. The people of Yellowknife wholeheartedly welcomed back the Snow King after he took off a couple of years from his construction of the only snow castle in the Northwest Territories. This year the castle is bigger and more impressive than ever, with real castle-like turrets and clear ice windows. Last Friday evening, I had the pleasure, in spite of minus 37 degree temperatures, to attend the official opening of the 2003 series snow castle along with a huge crowd of visitors including our mayor from Yellowknife and our Premier.

The Snow King's festival will run every weekend in March with a new activity planned for each week. Admission to the castle and festivities is free, and the entertainment is sure to be great. Mr. Foliot and his volunteers and the corporate sponsors deserve a big thank you from all of us. The king and his volunteers put in hundreds of hours so they could challenge and enjoy winter. While many of us hunker down by the wood stove, wishing winter would end and the sun would come back, they are out there working and enjoying themselves and dreaming of the enjoyment they bring to many visitors, and they do this with generosity straight from the heart. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Recognition Of The "snow King" Anthony Foliot
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Steen.

Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my statement will follow along the lines of my honourable colleague from Inuvik Boot Lake. Mr. Speaker, last weekend was a great weekend for hockey fans in the Beaufort-Delta area. A number of hockey teams in my riding of Nunakput took part in the annual IRC hockey tournament, including a team from Holman. Mr. Speaker, after a number of annual attempts, I am told Inuvik hockey teams finally managed to limit the Gruben's Transport's team to only third place in the event. However, in the B event, it was Tuktoyaktuk in first place, as usual, by a score of 7-5.

Mr. Speaker, speaking to the individual awards in the A division, top score went to Kelly Ovayuak of E. Gruben's Transport of Tuktoyaktuk. In the B event, top score went to Daniel Nogasak of Tuktoyaktuk. Most valuable player was Sandy Adams of Tuktoyaktuk and top defence, Albert Banksland of Holman.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to congratulate all the players for their efforts in sportsmanship and I wish to acknowledge time and effort the organizers put into making this a successful event year after year. Of course, we must not forget the kindly sponsors. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Recognition Of GNWT Long Service Award Recipients From Hay River South
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I stand to recognize a number of government employees who have reached a milestone in their careers. On February 19th in Hay River, the government paid tribute to 27 employees for their record of long service with the GNWT.

Mr. Speaker, we often take for granted the work of these people. Their professionalism contributes to the building and makeup of our communities. They teach our children in the schools; they run our offices; they maintain our highways; work with adults, youth and victims of the justice system. They keep government facilities and infrastructure in order. These are the people who work for the residents of the Northwest Territories, both day and night, all year long and some of these employees have been performing these duties for many, many years.

Today, I would like to recognize several Hay River South constituents who have achieved long service status with the Government of the Northwest Territories.

In the Department of Justice with five years: Joel Bowker, Darren Dragon, Brenda McAllister, Glen Pangborne, Orrell Sheets; with 10 years of service: Jacqueline Haley; with 15 years of service, Larry Dragon, Robert Haley, Robert Seeley, Raymond Simon; and 25 years of service, Bertha Calvin.

In Education, Culture and Employment with 30 years of service, Alison Kilgour.

With the South Slave Divisional Education Council with five years of service, Sandra Wilkie; with 15 years of service, Darrel Budgell, Doris Camsell, Gerrard Carrol, Linda Gallagher, Brent Kaulback, Dorothy Lirette; with 25 years in our education service in Hay River, Carol Grimm.

In the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development with 30 years of service, Al Helmer.

Mr. Speaker, I salute these people and thank them for all of their dedicated support and service to the Government of the Northwest Territories for contribution to a strong, dependable workforce, which goes towards what makes our communities and territories what they are today and particularly, in Hay River, in my opinion, a very wonderful place to work and live. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Recognition Of GNWT Long Service Award Recipients From Hay River South
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lafferty.

Deferral Of The GNWT Harmonization Initiative
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House, I introduced a motion to scrap the harmonization initiative. This motion was defeated, but I think there are some valid concerns that need to be addressed. We learned yesterday in the House that, to date, over $400,000 has been spent on this initiative. Obviously a significant amount of time and energy has gone into this. Yet, there still remain unanswered questions. I think it would be wise to defer the implementation of this initiative until more answers are known. One of the rules of harmonization is to have an income cut-off, so as to provide an incentive for individuals to go out and work.

Mr. Speaker, I think the reality is that work is not something that most people avoid. As my colleague from Tu Nedhe pointed out, the problem is that in a lot of small communities, there is no work available. By creating new categories of what is considered income, like bingo, babysitting, child tax, craft sales, we are penalizing people. Mr. Speaker, by considering these activities as a source of income, we are turning cultural activities and innocent pastimes into burdens. Mr. Speaker, where do we draw the line? If a child finds a quarter on the road, are we going to take a percentage of it?

---Interjection

Deferral Of The GNWT Harmonization Initiative
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House the Minister stated that approximately 2,200 households will be affected by this initiative. Earlier he stated that 1,823 households will see a change in their rent due to harmonization and 40 percent of these households will see an increase in their rent. Mr. Speaker, throughout this session, I am finding out that just basing rent on pay stubs overlooks how many people live in the home and need to be supported by the income earned. I also raised concern how rent and income support are going to be addressed on a month-to-month basis. This makes it hard for people to plan and it looks like it's easy to foresee that arrears will be created quickly. Mr. Speaker, there are a lot of issues that need to be dealt with.

Mr. Speaker, the way I see harmonization is like these two Ministers are going on a long trip. They see the gas gauge going up and down. They don't know how much gas is in the tank. Some Ministers and Members on this side are saying go ahead and a minority of us on this side of the House are saying pull over, check your gas tank. I urge the Ministers and Members in this House to defer this strategy until we know where we are going to end up. The numbers are out there, the households are known. Just take the time to make sure we are heading in the right direction. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Braden.

Mining Contribution To The Northern Economy
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like today to take a minute to look at what is happening in our backyards and the remote part of this country in the mining industry. Mr. Speaker, we continue to see through the Con and Giant gold properties, production in the neighbourhood of 120 ounces of gold a year and diamonds that are now valued at about half a billion dollars a year. Mr. Speaker, these are significant developments. They are driving our economy causing the NWT to be a leader in Canada and economic growth. We've also seen a number of significant things in and around the diamond industry as we look at this fast maturing industry in the Canadian mineral field. We saw in the last few months, the approval by 52 countries of the Kimberly Process, which will help secure the confidence in the market through an international certification process. We've seen training programs, many of them fostered by and supported by this government. We've got used to some new corporate names in our communities, Mr. Speaker, names like Sirius and Arslanian. We are just getting used to those and new names are coming in. We are going to be getting used to names like Beny -Sofer and Sons, Rosy Blue, E. Schreiber Inc., Backes and Strauss, Laurelton and one that is rather familiar to us, Tiffany's.

Mr. Speaker, we are seeing what was a promising part of our economy with dozens of people employed in the sorting, cutting and polishing field. This will mean hundreds of people in the very near future. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to just take a minute to acknowledge what is going on here. This weekend and next week in Toronto takes place Canada's major national mining program, the Prospectors' and Developers' Association of Canada. This is where the risk-takers, the diggers and the people who put their fortunes at risk looking for minerals gather to see what is going on, and I wish them all the best in the future here in the NWT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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