This is page numbers 899 - 928 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department's plan for dust control at this time...I believe the Member is referring to the chipsealing program that we are just undertaking this year. So far, the only funding we have obtained for this is spread over a five-year period. That is, $1 million a year for the program. Not all communities are identified under that particular program. We have only a certain number of communities that are identified at this point in time.

The long-term plan of the department is to have chipsealing or some form of dust control in all communities. However, we have not identified future funding yet. Although the department would certainly like to speed up the program to allow for more communities to be done in the five-year period, that is all the funding we have at this point from Financial Management Board Secretariat. Thank you.

Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is obvious to me that this government does not put too much value in the health of the people of the Northwest Territories. We are arguing over the specialists, that is the treatment of the physical needs of people after they are affected. This is a preventive measure we are talking about, but we are only putting in $1 million a year. So I am asking the Minister, how many communities does this five-year plan cover and which communities are those? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at this time the five-year plan covers Kakisa, Hay River Reserve, Fort Providence, Enterprise, Tsiigehtchic, Aklavik, Fort McPherson, Wrigley, Fort Liard, Edzo, Tuktoyaktuk, Tulita, Fort Good Hope, Fort Resolution, Dettah and that is it. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, from the documents that I have seen, there are only five communities that are going to be addressed this year. There are other communities. How long will it take this government to put chipseal for dust control purposes to improve the quality of lives in our communities? How long will it take the department to do that, Mr. Speaker?

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the rate of funding that we have available at this time it would take a lot longer than the five-year program that we have. However, we are looking into other options. We have been approached by two other communities with different forms of dust control very similar to chipsealing, but it is a different form of dust control. We are asking Transportation to work with us and see whether or not this process that has been identified for these other two communities is in fact feasible and whether or not it will be efficient or effective in the communities. So depending on the type of processes that are available to us and the amount of funding, we are looking at a lot longer than a five-year period to address all the communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Your final supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that is quite unfortunate that the department does not have the imagination or the fiscal resources or the imagination to obtain the fiscal resources to do this. We are talking about negotiated contracts. Why do we not throw something to the communities to see if they are willing to pay for the cost to do the work upfront and the department pays them back for their time, something of that nature? It is just to deal with this issue, Mr. Speaker. If that is not the case, I would like to ask the Minister, would his department be willing to compensate those people that cannot venture outside because of health reasons? They cannot work because of health reasons and dust reasons. Would they be willing to compensate people that are suffering, today, right now, Mr. Speaker?

Supplementary To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Municipal and Community Affairs does not have a program of that nature, that is for sure. But my colleague advises me that Health and Social Services has been expending $230 million a year towards their contribution towards the health problems in the communities. I think the Member has a good point, Mr. Speaker. I am not trying to work around his concern. Municipal and Community Affairs is making whatever effort we can make to work with the communities to address the dust problems in the communities. We are open to suggestions. Whether or not it would involve the communities taking on the program themselves and then asking Municipal and Community Affairs to contribute to the cost later, that has already happened in a couple of communities. So the option is there.

Further Return To Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In Nwt Communities
Question 285-14(6): Dust Control In NWT Communities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I would like to pick up on my line of questioning to Mr. Antoine regarding the contracting of Twin Falls Gorge in the community of Enterprise. I got some response from the Minister last week regarding definition of innovative services. I am glad to see that it is more than just coloured toilet paper in the campgrounds. However, I have a concern when this method of awarding contracts is used, especially on campgrounds where it is straightforward operations and maintenance. When a request for proposal is used we lose the local content. In every other instance in a tender we have a business incentive policy that applies where there is preference given to the northern contractor or the local contractor. But when you go into a request for proposal it is broken down into 40 percent price, 30 percent personnel, 30 percent innovative services. It does not give any preferential treatment to the communities. In this case, Twin Falls Gorge is right within the community of Enterprise's boundaries. So I would like to know, why there is no allowance made for points to the communities?

Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Minister Antoine.

Return To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I checked this out with Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development in regards to the request for proposal for the Twin Falls campground operations and the department followed the business incentive policy. It calls for the five percent preference for community applicants. So it was included in the evaluation process of that 40 percent for price. Thank you.

Return To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I read that the request for proposal allows for a business incentive policy, but if the points awarded for 40 percent of the contract that is only based on price, then the five percent business incentive policy becomes what? Two percent? A percent and a half? I would like to know if the Minister would review the policy for request for proposals and include the preferential awarding of points for when it comes to contracts that are within community boundaries. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Minister Antoine.

Further Return To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will check again with the department, but I was told by the department that they did apply the five percent in this instance. But I will double check again. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In this instance with the Twin Falls Gorge contract, we had a number of people bid on the contract or submit proposals, three from the community. They were not considered and they claim that the business incentive policy in the request for proposal in this instance does not work. I would like to ask the Minister if he would go into the community or send a delegation or some other official into the community of Enterprise to explain how the points were awarded and how and why they were left out of the process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Minister Antoine.

Further Return To Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Question 286-14(6): Twin Falls Gorge Campground Contract
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Twin Falls campground request for proposal, I understand the senior administrative officer of Enterprise was a member of the evaluation team, and that the one person that did not get the contract had come into the office and the process was explained to this person. The other person that was not registered under the business incentive policy automatically lost out because he was not registered. But as you know, we have gone through every policy extensively in this House and through the committees and we all agreed that we were going to follow the business incentive policy process. That is the policy we follow. I will endeavour to send a Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development representative into the community and sit down with the council there and explain the process for the individuals that were not successful. Thank you.