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Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a broad process at play here as we work towards a resolution of this issue. There was a formal negotiation process that ended a week-and-a-half ago. We have been working for several weeks now on a contingency plan based on the letters of resignation effective July 1st that were issued by the 12 specialists. We are working through that and dealing with all the other implications that followed that that process has brought to bear. We are in session at present. It is an issue and a forum that tends to bring political attention to issues. We are dealing with that as well and we are being very measured. We are taking all the steps we deem appropriate and we are hoping the specialists as well are looking at their options, all of whom signed individual contracts at the end of the day. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

So, Mr. Speaker, it seems that there is just no appreciation of the situation there or the timing on this. We have 20 days in which to do something, and all that I am hearing is that there is an offer to arbitrate and that the specialists might be ready to do something at the very last minute, the 11th hour. I hardly find this adequate. Does the Minister need to go back to Cabinet? What does the Minister have to do to get some kind of mandate to restart negotiations? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we ended the formal process with a significant difference. We offered what we think is a very reasonable, fair alternative given the significant 30 percent gap in the wage demands. That is arbitration. That is a process that is there that is impartial with a third party that can bring a resolution to this issue. That offer has not been taken off the table even though formal negotiations are over. That was what we suggested as a very fair compromise. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I want to make sure I have this absolutely clear; that our government has abandoned, given up, shut the door completely on restarting formal negotiations. Is that correct?

Supplementary To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I have just indicated, we have an offer of arbitration on the table. All the specialists involved signed individual contracts and at the end of the day, they won't be having to look at those contracts, the offer we have made, the fact that we are going to be back into negotiations in about six months and make some decisions. Mr. Speaker, we think a 27 percent increase is very fair over two years. Most jurisdictions aren't that high in over three years. So, Mr. Speaker, we think this is a very fair offer. As I indicated to this House, I understand that there are meetings among the doctors taking place this week. So we stand with our offer out there for arbitration and a very fair package.

Further Return To Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Question 291-14(6): Specialist Physician Negotiation Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. We've heard a lot of talk in the Chamber today about negotiated contracts and the business incentive policy. We've also been talking about contingency plans. I am wondering when we talk about negotiated contracts, there are different reasons for doing them and I think most of them understand what most of those motivations and reasons are. We talk about storefronts, but not all businesses that are losing out on contracts are storefronts. Many of them are businesses that have been here 10, 20, 40 years in the North and who need government business in order to survive and to ensure the viability of their business. What is the contingency plan on the part of this government for those businesses who have been here, have employees, have tremendous investment in the North, when negotiated contracts take away their access and opportunity to bid on contracts? What is the contingency plan for those businesses? Thank you.

Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the intention of negotiated contracts is to give corporations, companies, mainly aboriginal companies from small communities, opportunities to get their foot in the door of the business world and also develop their capacity to pursue the type of work and contracts in that area. This negotiated contract has been a policy of this government for a number of years. We are currently reviewing this policy, I think we shared with the MLAs through AOC, and we got feedback. We are fine-tuning this policy and we are hoping to shortly have that in place. It would change the way we are doing it. There will still be a negotiated contract policy, but it's going to have more mechanisms in place that would allow it to be a lot fairer than it is. As for a contingency for the companies that are currently working in this area that have... I don't know how many companies there are in the small communities where there are contracts, but I think the focus would be mainly towards the smaller communities where there are contracts that the different corporations, aboriginal corporations, are capable of taking on. We have to look at that. The idea there is that government money flowing to these communities should stay in the communities or the regions and not be taken out to another larger centre. That is also part of what we are looking at in this area. Thank you.

Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, not every type of business can survive just by doing business right within their community. Many companies need to look at the availability of work on a larger scale in the region. Even small, aspiring companies will want to think about eventually offering their goods or services to a larger marketplace. I think we still have free trade in the Northwest Territories. I think it's okay to work in our communities. I want to know how we are going to balance, as a government, the aspirations of those businesses in the small communities -- as the Minister said primarily aboriginal -- how are we going to balance that without not disrupting completely the life's work and investment of other companies in the same region? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, the intention here is to try to accommodate some of the corporations that are in the regions and small communities to get them involved in the business world. I think there are aspirations out there. Looking at the economy in the Northwest Territories, it has changed quite drastically in the last few years and we are out there in the world saying the GDP has grown 18 to 20 percent and I don't see it slowing down. It's increasing. With the amount of resource development that's going to happen, especially the pipeline, I think the future down the line is that there is going to be a lot of work in the North and we need to have the different companies that currently exist to continue to exist, so we could maybe benefit from it, as well as smaller communities that are aspiring to get into the business world. We need to do that. In the policy which, unfortunately, we haven't concluded, the discussion is that there has to be a certain period of life in a negotiated contract. I don't think the debate and discussion that we've had is that negotiated contracts can go on forever. There has to be a period of time during which the different companies should have reached a point to where they could have equal footing with other companies that have to compete. I think there will be a life to this negotiated contract. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Has the government given any consideration to how they can accommodate the aspirations of new fledgling communities from smaller communities and, at the same time, protect the viability and the investment of larger companies? Has the government given any consideration to how that can be accomplished?

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the policy that I am talking about is in development. We need to discuss more than balancing the existing companies that are there and have been for a number of years and the fledgling companies. We need to still discuss that matter. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be interested in participating in that because it is an issue and it can become a problem. I would like to suggest that where there is a desire for new companies to start, that the government seriously consider how they might make a transition in terms of ownership rather than just straight out market disruption and killing off some of these long-established companies by a slow death through negotiated contracts or by other means. Would the Minister consider it worthwhile to look at how aboriginal companies could become involved in some of these companies, perhaps in a way that could allow them to take them over, as opposed to just seeing them go out of business? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of RWED, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 292-14(6): Support For Long-term Northern Businesses
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with the North and the business world that is unfolding before us, there will be plenty of opportunities in the future for innovative business arrangements. I think there are possibilities of joint venturing, as well as taking over other companies. I think that is the possibility out there. I think there is room to explore those possibilities. How do we do it? We still need to talk about it and perhaps it is a subject for a good discussion and exchange on how we can work together and look for answers for those kinds of questions.