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Further Return To Question 310-15(3): Eligibility For Legal Aid Before A Justice Of The Peace
Question 310-15(3): Eligibility For Legal Aid Before A Justice Of The Peace
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have the exact percentage of time that lawyers attend JP court. It's not very often in the Northwest Territories because, as I mentioned, they only attend for show cause hearings typically, or when the terms are being set for somebody's release. The exact percentage I can't provide, however, it's not very often. It's not a practice that has happened anywhere across the Territories. The role of the court worker is to attend JP court and watch for situations where a lawyer should be involved and ask, in those circumstances, for the case to be set over to the Territorial Court. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 310-15(3): Eligibility For Legal Aid Before A Justice Of The Peace
Question 310-15(3): Eligibility For Legal Aid Before A Justice Of The Peace
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during May of this year, there was a bit of a crisis with

persons with severe developmental disabilities in Edmonton who are Northwest Territories citizens. Mr. Speaker, referring back to that crisis, it was about accreditation and some suggestion of abuse. Would the Minister of Health and Social Services be able to update us on that problem that occurred then and what his department has done to solve that crisis? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the question is not clear enough for me in terms of the crisis he's talking about. If he wants to be more specific, I'll try to be more specific as well. Thank you.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Hawkins, if you want to clarify your question.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not sure what the Minister's referring to by not understanding that question and it seems I've lost my first question, so I'll try to squeeze it in again clearer. There was a crisis with regards to accreditation about our people being down in a facility in Edmonton and we're talking about people with severe developmental disabilities. There were concerns of abuse, and who knows what else was happening down there. The folks were being shuffled around in a non-accredited facility. Mr. Speaker, my question clearly is what is the Minister doing about these folks down in Edmonton? What is he doing? Where are they today? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this situation has resolved itself in terms of the accreditation issue. We no longer have, have not had I believe since last May, any kind of relationship with the facility in question or the program in question. Arrangements have been made both in Edmonton and in the North for the folks that were involved or staying at that facility and in that program. The issues that were raised in terms of mistreatment and other concerns that were raised by some of the former staff of that facility are being dealt with. It's in Alberta. It's a situation that occurred in Alberta. It's an Alberta program that's run under the standards and rules of the Government of Alberta and they've been dealing with that. Our role has solely been as buying a service from that particular organization, and when the troubles occurred we severed that relationship in the best interests of the clients that were being served and we made alternate arrangements. Thank you.

Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister's answer there. That was very clear on this side. Mr. Speaker, my concern is that I'm afraid we're abandoning these people. Mr. Speaker, my concern is that we're spending $1,500 a day through different types of placements. We're spending $1 million a year to no end to treat these people. Are we bringing these people home eventually? Are we taking care of our people? What is the Minister doing to bring these folks home to the Northwest Territories where they belong? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the money is not spent to no end. These are individuals that have significant needs. In some cases we've done a review on all the clients. In some cases they've been returned to the North. In other cases alternate placements have been found. Some are very high need and will never be able to, in our opinion, come North, at least not in the foreseeable future. So we've made the appropriate arrangements in all cases for the individuals involved. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recognizing that we do have clients with high needs, I do appreciate that. But the fact is they're gone. They're down there and from the sounds of it, it's as if they're going to be there forever. Why are we not working towards establishing a northern facility to take care of our own people? Why are we not looking at investing in the Northwest Territories? It doesn't matter where, but why are we not taking those steps to invest in the Northwest Territories to take care of our people with our dollars? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

But the fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, we are. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Your final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That was a good answer by the Minister, I'll say. Mr. Speaker, why are we not looking at setting up a territorial facility to take care of all of the people that we ship out to Edmonton with regard to this situation that I've raised with the Minister? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are doing a review of the clients. We have done a review. We have made the steps in some cases to repatriate some of the clients. One size does not fit all. These are clients with individual and, in some cases, very specific and specialized needs. It's not accurate or appropriate to assume that you can just create a facility that would be able to deal with all the issues of all these high-needs individuals. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled Nwt Residents In Alberta Facilities
Question 311-15(3): Update On Disabled NWT Residents In Alberta Facilities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 312-15(3): Treatment Of Contractors In Market Housing Initiative
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to follow up on the questions that I had for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation earlier. Mr. Speaker, if I understood him correctly, he indicated that in fact the Housing Corporation lifted the BIP waiver. The waiver that they fought so hard for; they being Mr. McLeod and Mr. Bell. They told us the world will end if they didn't get it this way, now the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation for the first time just now enlightened us that he, in fact, lifted that waiver for the subcontractors. To the same question, in the last answer he gave earlier, he said he can't go with the local contractors in the NWT because it's too expensive. So I want to know if he's treating subcontractors in communities differently than businesses in Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation, Mr. Krutko.

Return To Question 312-15(3): Treatment Of Contractors In Market Housing Initiative
Question 312-15(3): Treatment Of Contractors In Market Housing Initiative
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd just like to clarify the Member's question. The waiver of the BIP was on the site development phase of the project, so it was for the set-up costs of the units in the communities and the transportation costs. The BIP was waived to ensure that portion of the contract would benefit the North. That decision was made in May. With regard to the construction, the labour, the equipment materials for site work setup, that portion was waived to ensure that we received as much benefit as we could for that aspect. Thank you.