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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Kevin A. Menicoche

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I can't explain why the security requirements have been set up as they have. I have to accept that people who have looked at the situation have decided that in order to make sure our system of air transport is safe, that they have designed things to work around it. I can only say that we, as a government, feel it's necessary to follow through with these expenditures because we think it's essential that we live up to our responsibility to keep the system safe and still ensure that people can fly from the Northwest Territories to airports that are in the national airport system.

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The Chair

The Chair Kevin A. Menicoche

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, just to follow up on Mrs. Groenewegen's comment, it just doesn't make sense that the only airport in the Northwest Territories that's going to have this type of equipment is Yellowknife, and 737s land in Inuvik, Norman Wells and other communities in the Northwest Territories that don't have this system. I want to know if the Minister would have any indications of future plans such as Inuvik and Norman Wells and maybe Fort Smith or Hay River...Has the federal government given any indication as to upgrading those airports also where 737s do land and take off? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Kevin A. Menicoche

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Not that I'm aware of, but perhaps we could ask the Minister of Transportation if he could respond to the question.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Kevin A. Menicoche

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as far as we know, Yellowknife is the only place that is being required to install these facilities. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Kevin A. Menicoche

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to the user fee, it's quite a large amount of money that's going to be spent for the user fee. I guess I want to see what type of recovery process or how long it's going to take, 10, 15, 20 years, to recover that money. I just want to ask Mr. Dent if he can shed some light on that.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The direction to the Minister so far was to come back with a plan that would recover the money over 10 years.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. The activity in the Northwest Territories should - I'll cross my fingers here -- the pipeline go through, is going to be quite busy with regard to the different regions of the Northwest Territories. Isn't the federal government a little bit concerned about that level of activity happening in light of what's happening around the world in terms of protection of our airports and our people? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. At this point, I don't know anything about that, so perhaps we could ask the Minister of Transportation if he could respond.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Madam Chair, that's a question that the conditions and process for that are a little different. Through the requirements for increased traffic volume in a lot of different airports, we've already done a number of projects through this program called the Airport Capital Assistance Program. We've dealt with a number of the issues relating to increased traffic volumes. We've invested some money in the Inuvik Airport and also done some work targeting Norman Wells. We've also accessed several projects at the Yellowknife Airport over the years. However, in this case we haven't been able to apply this project along with the CATSA funding for the increased space requirements.

In terms of responding to the question about the pipeline and the expected traffic increases, we are evaluating all the airports across the North and we have already embarked on doing some expansion work and renovation work in a number of different areas in airports across the Territories.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. With respect to the supplementary appropriation for $3.4 million, Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. Just one final comment here, Madam Chair. I'm still trying to make sense of the restrictions on 737 aircraft by January 2006 with regard to the Yellowknife Airport, yet these types of aircraft leave other airports in the Northwest Territories, so this doesn't make sense right now. I wonder if the Minister would have some meetings with the federal Minister in terms of any future discussions or any future direction with regard to our airports that we would have some input, rather that showing up in our books here. It just doesn't make sense to me, so that's all I have to say, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you. Madam Chair, perhaps we could refer this to the Minister of Transportation, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Madam Chair, I don't know if I'm in a position to qualify whether the federal requirements make sense or not. At this point I'm obligated to follow through and implement this whole explosion detection system by the deadline. We have raised this issue regarding our additional funding requirements to the federal government. We have talked to the CATSA officials over a number of months from the time this funding application was submitted in December right until this spring when it was final, and all indicators showed that the government was not going to budge on allowing us any more money to deal with some of our requirements. We have met with the federal Minister, we indicated this is one of the issues we wanted to talk about, we've also indicated to our MP that this is an issue for us. However, I have a deadline, I'm obligated to follow through to have this in place by 2006. So we feel we have exhausted all avenues to get additional funding or to get CATSA to move on what they've approved. We don't feel it's right, we are not happy with it, however, that's as far as we feel we can go and, therefore, brought it forward to FMB for discussion. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Yakeleya.