Debates of March 19th, 2004

This is page numbers 85 - 112 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
2004 Social Work Week
Celebration Of Francophonie Day
2004 Arctic Winter Games
Premier Absent From The House
Tribute To Rick Tremblay
Appointment Of Resident Territorial Court Justice
Recognition Of The Addictions Counselling Profession
Tribute To Rick Tremblay
Poem Of Politics In The Northwest Territories
Caribou Carnival Princess And Queen Contestants
2004 Social Work Week
The Importance Of Family Support Systems
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Recognition Of Addiction Counsellor Profession
Fuel Assistance For Visitors To The North
Promoting Travel And Tourism In The North
Changes To The Territorial Parks Regulations
Promotional Slogan For The Nwt
Social Impacts Of Pipeline Development
Tabled Document 1-15(3): Alternatives North: Stop The NWT Clawback Of The National Child Tax Benefit Supplement
Bill 4: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2003-2004
Bill 2: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act
Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Investigate The Feasibility Of A Human Resources Service Centre
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Bill 2: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act
Item 18: First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Bill 2 has had first reading. Item 18, first reading of bills. Minister Roland.

Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2
Item 18: First Reading Of Bills

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for North Slave, that Bill 3, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act, No. 2, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2
Item 18: First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

The motion is in order. To the motion.

Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2
Item 18: First Reading Of Bills

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An Hon. Member

Question.

Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act, No. 2
Item 18: First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Bill 3 has had first reading. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 1, Appropriation Act, 2004-2005; Committee Report 1-15(3): Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight Report on the Review of the Draft 2004-2005 Main Estimates; and, Committee Report 2-15(3): Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the Review of the Draft 2004-2005 Main Estimates, with Mrs. Groenewegen in the chair.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

March 18th, 2004

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I call Committee of the Whole to order. Yesterday we left off working on Bill 1, Appropriation Act, 2004-2005, under the Department of Finance. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Allen.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would strongly suggest that we conclude or continue to review the Department of Finance, and if we conclude in time, that we move on to the report on the Financial Management Board Secretariat. With that, Madam Chair, that is what I would suggest. Thank you.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay, does the committee agree?

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Would the Minister like to bring his witnesses in?

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, Madam Chair, I would like to have the witnesses come in. It might be a few minutes before they can make it down here.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay, well, maybe we will just have a very brief break while we are giving the Minister a chance to get set up. Thank you.

---SHORT RECESS

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I will call Committee of the Whole back to order and ask the Minister if he would like to bring officials in.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, Madam Chair.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Does the committee agree?

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I will ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to escort the witnesses in.

Mr. Minister, could you please introduce your witnesses, for the record, please?

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. To my right is the deputy minister of the Department of Finance, Margaret Melhorn; and, to my left is Mr. Mel Enge, director of finance and administration.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Hawkins.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. On my questions, yesterday we left off on page 3-20 as you indicated, Madam Chair. In response to my last question before the time ran out, Mr. Roland's officials had indicated under Liquor Licensing Board revenue, licensing fees and fines were the break...If they can give me an indication of how that breaks out. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. My understanding is they are getting information on the other income portion, the $180,000 for 2004-05 and what that was made up of. I believe we did provide some information on the Liquor Licensing Board revenue of $632,000. So can we have some clarification on which area?

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Hawkins.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. Basically I am trying to get an idea of what the breakdown is of that $632,000. Is that 90 percent fines or 90 percent licence fees? I just want to get an idea of what that composition is. I suspect it's just two line items as you had mentioned yesterday. If you could give us a further breakdown on that.

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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Roland.