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Supplementary To Question 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Supplementary To 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I remember some time ago getting into quite a debate in this House with Mr. Dent with respect to religious education in schools in Hay River. I would just like to confirm with the Minister then that this is a public institution and so if a faith-based organization or a religious organization, a church, for example, wanted to offer a course through Aurora College, I trust that that would not contravene the policy as he's laid it out here. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Supplementary To 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Supplementary To 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure whether or not that would. I would have to check with the college. I will take that question as notice.

Further Return To Question 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Supplementary To 352-15(3): Arctic College Palmistry Course
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to follow through with the Honourable Michael McLeod on

some land issue questions as the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. In our discussion earlier in question period, Mr. Speaker, the Minister mentioned the Interim Measures Agreement as the protocol that we have regarding our government's management of Commissioner's land and the interests of municipalities or others and aboriginal governments. In the city of Yellowknife, we went through last year quite an interesting exercise, thankfully one that had a good outcome, with the Con Camp area and the disposition of that land, and the Interim Measures Agreement, Mr. Speaker, factored very heavily into that whole situation.

I wanted to ask, Mr. Speaker, at present are there any land applications by the City of Yellowknife that are before us and that are now engaged in that IMA consultation process? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.

Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, Mr. Speaker, there is an application before us and has been before us for awhile now by the city for some land in the Kam Lake area that has gone through the Interim Measures Agreement process. Thank you.

Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In terms of the protocol and exercising this Interim Measures Agreement, is it working out to everyone's satisfaction? Are we able to see through this clear management of the handing over of land to communities? Is this agreement working the way it should? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the Interim Measures Agreement will only work if everyone agrees to make their best effort to deal with the issues and follow the criteria that's set out. We have a number of issues that have come forward in the city of Yellowknife. We have met with the Yellowknives on a number of occasions. The Akaitcho Tribal Council has also been consulted and we have talked to them. We are trying to work out a process. We have a signed agreement with the Yellowknives Dene to start looking at areas that we could consider opening up. Last week we met with the City of Yellowknife. The Yellowknives were also there. We have reviewed all the different development plans that are being considered, the city, the Yellowknives, Dene, the Department of Transportation and the government initiatives. We are trying to work out a collective process that everyone would be satisfied with. There is consultation and hopefully that's going to be something we have in the next little while. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly the Minister is right; these are agreements based on goodwill and intention on everyone to move them forward, but things happen and interest can change from time to time. Right now, Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that if someone wanted to build a house or develop something, there is no publicly owned land that you could purchase in the city of Yellowknife. Our situation is that dire and we are extremely dependent on this process to get land available for the growth the city faces. Does this agreement prescribe clear, well-defined time frames by which decisions will be made and a process will be moving along? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, these comments about lands available for public lands is not something I can answer at this point. I believe all the lands have been made available for private developers in the city of Yellowknife. The system we have in place allows for the consultation of all the groups involved. How long the system will be in place will depend on the negotiations that are happening with the aboriginal governments. I don't have a time frame as to how long that will be. Right now, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is obligated to follow the Interim Measures Agreement as it's laid out and has been agreed to by this government and the Akaitcho and that's what we are doing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The time for question period has expired, although I will allow Mr. Braden his final supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I would like to underscore for the Minister and get his response, if he cares to, on the issue of the lack of land, as I am told no publicly available land. How can developers make decisions? We are quickly coming up to the spring and summer construction season. If we don't know whether or not we can get land in a certain time frame, how can these decisions be made? This is the crunch that the City of Yellowknife and developers are facing in Yellowknife right now, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. McLeod.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is an issue. We have talked about it. It's certainly a concern with our department, the City of Yellowknife and the residents of this community. At our last meeting, we were informed by the mayor of Yellowknife that there is a plan for land acquisition being brought forward. It has received second reading. We have not received that at this point and that's an issue that we will deal with when it comes forward. We are working with the aboriginal groups, the aboriginal governments, to put together a

system that will allow us to move lands and allow us to deal with land applications. We need to have the Akaitcho onside. We need to have the city onside and we are looking at some resolutions to this whole issue of availability of lands in Yellowknife. So it's something that's ongoing. We are working with it. We have agreed to have a series of meetings. The Yellowknives and city have agreed to meet on their own. We are also meeting and talking to them and are trying to rectify this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Question 353-15(3): Interim Measures Agreement For Land Development
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The time for oral questions has expired. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I am in receipt of returns to written questions 31-15(3), 35-15(3), 39-15(3), 40-15(3), 41-15(3), 42-15(3), 43-15(3), 44-15(3), 45-15(3), 46-15(3), 47-15(3), 48-15(3), 49-15(3), 50-15(3), 51-15(3), 52-15(3), 53-15(3), 54-15(3), 55-15(3), 56-15(3), 57-15(3),58-15(3), 59-15(3), 60-15(3), 61-15(3), 62-15(3), 63-15(3), 64-15(3), 65-15(3), 66-15(3), 67-15(3) and 68-15(3). Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 31-15(3): Costs Related To The Taltson And Bear River Hydro Projects
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Hawkins on October 3, 2004, regarding costs related to the Taltson and Bear River Hydro projects.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table a detailed list of related expenditures that have been invested in these projects by the Government of the Northwest Territories up to October 31, 2004. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 35-15(3): Incarceration Of Sahtu Residents
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Yakeleya on October 15, 2004, regarding the incarceration of Sahtu residents.

On October 18, 2004, there were 17 residents from the Sahtu in the custody of the Department of Justice corrections services. Fourteen of these are territorial offenders and three are federal offenders. All 17 are currently serving their sentences in the Northwest Territories.

The corrections service offers more than 40 programs for offenders in the Northwest Territories based on three general categories: programs for adults, programs for youth, and wilderness camp programs. These programs include, but are not limited to, education, substance abuse, reasoning and rehabilitation, sharing circles, traditional healing and elders program, chaplaincy, and anger management.

The Department of Justice currently has contracts for two adult wilderness camps located near the communities of Fort Smith and Hay River. The department also has contracts for alternative open custody youth home/camps in Tulita and Fort Good Hope. The department is open to considering other camp locations; however, the existing camp contracts meet the current demand.

The corrections service works with offenders, their families and communities to develop reintegration plans for both adult and youth to ensure the safe and successful return to their community. This process may include ensuring an offender has a place to reside, assisting them to meet their employment or education needs, and establishing support or counselling services in the community. The Temporary Release Program allows adult offenders to be released under certain conditions to begin the reintegration back into their community. Under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, youth serve the last third of their sentence under supervision in the community.

Finally, I am proud to say that all programs and services provided by the corrections service are either developed or delivered with the understanding and consideration that many offenders in custody are aboriginal. Each correctional facility has some form of traditional or cultural programming that includes having elders on contract or on staff to support offenders. The department has also used an Aboriginal Advisory Committee in the development of new correctional facilities to ensure that aboriginal beliefs are integrated into the design and function of the building.

Return To Written Question 39-15(3): Budget For Legal Aid Office
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

I have a return to written question asked by Ms. Lee on October 18, 2004, regarding the budget for the family law legal aid office.

In 2004-05 the budget for the new Family Law Legal Aid Clinic is $266,000 based on less than a full year's operation. In 2004-05, of the $266,000 budgeted for the clinic, $177,000 was budgeted for compensation and benefits, and $89,000 was budgeted for operations and maintenance.

It is expected that the total lease payment for the new clinic over the life of the five-year lease is $197,000.

The Financial Management Board approved a special warrant of up to $115,000 for leasehold improvements. The final cost of these leasehold improvements was $39,393.

Return To Written Question 40-15(3): Costs And Uptake Of Alcohol And Drug Programs In The Sahtu
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

February 8th, 2005

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Yakeleya on October 18, 2004, regarding the cost and uptake of alcohol and drug programs in the Sahtu.

  1. What is the average cost to have a client participate in an alcohol and drug treatment program in Hay River, NT?

The Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre receives its operating budget of $1.5 million -- 2003-04 -- from the Department of Health and Social Services. It does not charge a fee for services to NWT residents. The Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre charges $130 per day for clients from Nunavut.

In 2003-04, 136 NWT clients attended the treatment programs at Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre. Therefore, the average cost per client was $11,029. If all spaces are used, 240 clients would be treated at an average cost of $6,250.

  1. How many clients in the past year, 2003-04, have participated and completed the alcohol and drug treatment program in the North?

During 2003-04, the Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre provided services to 161 clients, of which 136 were from the NWT and 25 were from Nunavut.

  1. How many clients were referred to southern treatment programs in 2003-04?

In 2003-04, 101 NWT clients -- adults, children and youth -- were referred to southern residential addiction treatment programs. Of these, 64 were adults, ages 19 and up; and 37 were children and youth, ages 12 to 18.

  1. What are the costs for southern treatment programs?

In 2003-04, it cost $595,115 for individuals to attend southern treatment programs. This amount includes $138,356 for medical travel.

  1. What are the costs of a mobile treatment program in the NWT?

The department discontinued mobile treatment programs in 2002 because of the poor evaluation results determined by Chalmers and Associates, which are documented in A State of Emergency - A Report on Addictions Services in the NWT, May 2002. The 2000-01 budget for mobile treatment programs was $490,000.

  1. How many family treatment programs are there in the NWT that deal with alcohol and drug treatment programs specifically?

At present, there are no family treatment programs in the NWT that have a mandate specific to addictions as a primary diagnosis. There are several programs whose mandate is "family" which address addiction issues, as many social and mental health issues stem from substance abuse. The YWCA's Women and Children's Healing and Recovery Program focuses on families that have been exposed to violence and particularly on women who are suffering from trauma and addiction issues. Also, the Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre also provides a 14-day treatment program for couples.

  1. How many children between the ages of 14 and 24 received alcohol and drug treatment in the Sahtu?

Six children/youth, ages 12 to 18, attended addictions treatment in southern facilities; 16 adults, ages 19 and up, attended treatment programs at the Nats'ejee K'eh Treatment Centre; and 11 adults, ages 19 and up, participated in addiction treatment programs outside of the NWT. The adults were referred to programs in the South because the Nats'ejee K'eh treatment team assessed the complexity of their cases to be beyond their expertise.