This is page numbers 1715 - 1769 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I guess the next logical question is we have social housing dollars, what are they being used for today? Thank you.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. That $33 million pays for the O and M for the 2,300 public housing units we have. That's the O and M that operates those units, and that is also expended in our LHOs.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I'm just kind of snickering here. So it's $35 million to run O and M with 2,300 units. That's kind of hard to believe. So it's all budgeted for and set aside. Perhaps there's opportunity here to allocate some of this funding towards HAP units and helping people build their own houses. I don't know if there's room for that there, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just for the Member, I mentioned it was 2,300 units that the O and M was to cover the cost for.

With regard to the other programs that you mentioned, we do have separate agreements for the EDAP programs and the IHP programs. Those agreements are between ourselves and CMHC, with regard to RAP and DAP and SNAP.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Menicoche.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Okay, thank you, Madam Chair. I think the Minister forgot one acronym; it's SLAP.

---Laughter

There will probably be another time to try to refocus some of the social housing target. I have spoken about it over the last couple of days and I would like to see us realign that. Indeed, we spoke a few times about realigning the focus and really have a good look at our Housing Corporation. With that, I'll stop there. I have no further questions.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Minister. Okay, just a comment. Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. We have Mr. Hawkins on the list next.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Minister said earlier with Mr. Menicoche's question about them moving the HR function of consolidating the HR function in the regional centres. Would that also include in Yellowknife?

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Minister.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, that includes the Yellowknife HR positions as headquarters. The five positions that are going to be moved into this centralized human resource...In the government, we're centralizing like a department of personnel. The dollars are still in the budget and once they do the transfer, it will be transferred along with those positions.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Hawkins.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. There was a big fight a while ago to keep them out of it, I thought. What was the change? I thought the Housing Corporation was to be exempt from this. What was the change?

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a concern from our department, because we do a lot of training and counselling with our LHOs with regard to our managers and also programs for our maintenance people. So they do have a lot of hands on. So that was a concern we had with the transfer, to ensure that that will continue on. We have to have that continuing with this transfer to ensure that we do have human resource capacity to deal with our service providers, such as the local housing authorities and the training people we have at regional operations by way of our program officers. So that was a concern we had but, because it is being centralized by the government, we were also on the list to do the transfer.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Although it's probably not exactly in this section, it's probably applicable to the executive branch of the Housing Corporation; which is, will it's computer section, we'll call it the Housing Corp TSC, be migrating to the greater good, as is the case in the human resource function is moving to the greater collective, as well? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Minister.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, that will continue to remain in our operation.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I guess if I said please, would you reconsider it? Would please help?

Committee Motion 26-15(3): Recommendation To Evaluate And Restructure The Market Housing Initiative, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Minister.