Debates of May 30th, 2005
This is page numbers 69 - 100 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.
Topics
- Members Present
- Item 1: Prayer
- point Of Privilege
- Minister's Statement 9-15(4): Graduated Driver's Licence Program
- Minister's Statement 10-15(4): NWT Disability Awareness Week
- Minister's Statement 11-15(4): Corrections Human Resource Review Update
- Motion To Move Ministers' Statements 1-15(4), 3-15(4), 4-15(4) And 5-15(4) Into Committee Of The Whole For Consideration, Carried
- Recognition Of Graduates In The Sahtu
- Income Support Policies For Special Needs
- Youth Activity Funding
- Closing Of Sleep Centre At Stanton Hospital
- Mackenzie Valley Land And Water Board Appointments
- Relocation Of Territorial Treatment Centre
- Recognition Of Yellowknife Catholic School Board's Approach To Junk Food
- Deh Cho Leadership Meeting In Fort Liard
- Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
- Question 37-15(4): Timeline For Responding To Questions Taken As Notice
- Question 38-15(4): Status Of The Stanton Sleep Centre And Its Clients
- Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
- Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
- Question 41-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
- Question 42-15(4): Chipseal Program In Fort Good Hope
- Question 43-15(4): Treatment Of Individual With A Disability
- Question 44-15(4): Dementia Centre In Yellowknife
- Question 45-15(4): Policies For Facility And Program Relocation
- Question 46-15(4): Youth Contribution Program Funding For Nahendeh
- Question 47-15(4): Administration Of The Homeownership Program (edap)
- Question 48-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
- Question 49-15(4): Recycling Program For Communities In The North
- Question 50-15(4): Relocation Of The Territorial Treatment Centre
- Tabled Document 3-15(4): Annual Report Respecting Members' Indemnities And Allowances For The Fiscal Year Ended March 31, 2005
- Tabled Document 4-15(4): Annual Report Respecting Capital Accommodation Expenses For The Fiscal Year Ended March 31, 2005
- Tabled Document 5-15(4): Annual Report Respecting Members' Constituency Expenses For The Fiscal Year Ended March 31, 2005
- Tabled Document 6-15(4): Summary Of Members' Absences For The Period April 1, 2004 To March 31, 2005
- Motion 1-15(4): Appointment Of Information And Privacy Commissioner
- Bill 10: An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act
- Bill 8: An Act To Amend The Revolving Funds Act
- Bill 3: An Act To Amend The Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Act
- Bill 4: An Act To Amend The Education Act
- Bill 5: An Act To Amend The Judicature Act
- Bill 6: Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 2005
- Bill 7: Personal Directives Act
- Bill 9: Municipal Statutes Amendment Act
- Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
- Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
- Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Supplementary To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Member has identified an area where we have a critical shortage of facilities across the Northwest Territories. That is in shops and opportunities for young students to gain hands-on education experience. We are hopeful that true partnership, which that's exactly how the project got going in Fort Good Hope that the principal and community was able to strike with businesses in the region. They were able to outfit that shop and get materials for the program. We are hoping that we are going to see more and more of that. We have good examples in the Beaufort-Delta. We have some here in Yellowknife and in the South Slave, as well. It's a situation where right now we are relying on partnerships to deliver that kind of programming. We have, as part of the Northern Strategy discussions, proposed that we be funded for a number of mobile shop units. We would use those then to travel around to the various communities to provide some hands-on training in those communities, in particular, where we don't have the ability to put a room in a school and provide a shop service. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, a lot of our students in the small communities have a talent for hands-on programs and the shop program is one of them that could be a success in the small communities. Would the Minister consider other facilities that may be used in the communities to enhance the shop programs for our schools? MACA, DPW and other organizations sometimes have shops available for students. Would he consider that in the time frame before launching into a different program that would see these types of shops in schools permanently? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think that's a great idea. We should find ways for schools to take advantage of other facilities that might be in communities. It's certainly something that we welcome. So it's already a possibility. We also encourage young people in school to get involved in apprenticeships and through the Schools North Apprenticeship Program, young people can gain hands-on experience and get credits towards their CTS courses, as well as time put in towards an apprenticeship. So we do have a number of different opportunities. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Further Return To Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Question 39-15(4): Teacher Recruitment And Retention In The Sahtu
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Minister Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
May 30th, 2005
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question today is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment and it's with regard to the Member's statement that I made earlier. Madam Speaker, I know the Minister is very well aware of the issues I outlined in that statement, and that has to do with the fact that the Income Support Program that we have now is engineered and oriented for those who are in need of temporary help from the government, in between jobs or for whatever reason they need some social assistance until they get back on their feet. Some of them take longer than others.
Persons with disabilities have a completely different set of requirements and we know that some of them may never be able to get back to work and they shouldn't be subject to the program that is oriented for some other need. I know that the department and the government are reviewing its policies and I would like to know where the Minister is with that review. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Deputy Speaker Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr Dent.
Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I agree with the Member's assertions to how the program should cater to those who have disabilities or, for that matter, people who are seniors. There are different reasons for people participating in the program and the program needs to accommodate those differences.
We are in the process of working through the redesign of the Income Support Program. We are at the point where we are going to be going back to committee very shortly with some suggestions for how our policies could be accommodated to deal with the different people in the different categories. We have committed to go back to the committee, Madam Speaker, to discuss the issue the Member brings up; that is how the program redesign would deal with those who are disabled or those who are seniors. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Absolutely, there is a process on the way but I think it's good for us to air out our ideas and the process we are following. I would like to ask the Minister where the department and the Minister stands with respect to the possibility of treating those with disabilities differently than those who are on income support in a regular manner. For some public policy reasons, income support is quite low. One of the reasons, whether it's accepted or not, is to encourage the people to get off the system and get better income options wherever possible. That is not the case and that's not workable for those with disabilities. Is the Minister considering in his review to increase the assistance available for those with disabilities over what they get now? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The program right now already provides increased assistance for people who are on disability. There is an extra $300 a month for people who are considered disabled. So right now, there is an increased allowance.
Having said that, the Member has made a point that I am quite prepared to agree to and that is the purpose of supporting people through the Income Support Program who are disabled is one of providing an opportunity for citizenship. So as we redesign the program, I will be working with my colleagues to try to determine what is an appropriate level of support. That's absolutely where we are headed with this; to take a look at the levels of support. The next step in this is to take a look at program redesign options. In that process, we will be involving stakeholders. So people like the Council for Persons with Disabilities. We will involve them in this consultative process, as well as other stakeholders. We are intending to try to respond to the different needs that different people have for the program. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Further Return To Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Question 40-15(4): Income Support Policies For Special Needs Cases
Item 6: Oral Questions
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