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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Abernethy.

Supplementary To Question 42-16(1): Public Service Morale
Item 7: Oral Questions

November 27th, 2007

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the problems I see with a survey that’s conducted over an entire public service is it gives you a general or an average, which would suggest that maybe morale isn’t awful, but maybe not that good. But it doesn’t identify those pockets where there are toxic environments. Is there any way that you can dig deeper into the surveys broken down by area in general to identify those areas where there is a toxic work environment where a significant amount of work needs to be done to bring up the morale and improve services to the public as a whole?

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Mr. McLeod.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly that's an area that we are looking at. I think we would like to undertake a process of many surveys so that we can, it will give us the ability to focus in on specific problem areas and help us to react to them more quickly. As the Member knows, the problem with engagement surveys is getting people to respond. Generally if we get a third of the employees to respond, we think we're doing good. If similarly we target specific areas, we would have to take that into account. But this is something that we are definitely looking at doing. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Supplementary, Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I acknowledge the difficulties in doing those types of surveys and how often individuals who are upset or have poor morale may not be willing to respond to them because they don't feel that it will do any good. I encourage the Minister to get out there and have people get out and actually meet with staff, and go out and meet with those staff and encourage them to actively respond to those surveys under the understanding that they are confidential. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. No question there. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, although I may be strong on the Justice side of the concerns of dealing with the drugs and alcohol when I talk about wanting to bring forward the Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act, I'm also a firm believer that it's part and parcel with treatment programs. So, Mr. Speaker, I have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services in that regard. I'm aware of no formal policy that has a follow-up program for people who go out for treatment, Mr. Speaker, so my philosophy is it's a lot cheaper to call people and ask them how they're doing as opposed to wait until they need treatment on a relapse. So would the Minister of Health and Social Services investigate this problem and move forward in developing a

policy so we have a follow-up procedure for folks who go through treatment programs?

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Ms. Lee.

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’m aware of at least in Yellowknife there are lots of programs being provided by NGO organizations at the Salvation Army, other counselling services. There are aftercare follow-up being done. Perhaps there’s not as much as we would like to see. I think that’s one of the big pieces that we’re working on as Caucus as a whole and 16th Assembly in terms of coming up with the plans and

putting more focus on dealing with addictions and mental health issues. I look forward to having a lot more discussions about that and how we go about reaching them and how we improve the whole continuum of services available in dealing with addictions and mental health issues. So, Mr. Speaker, thank you, thank the Member for the question.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this isn’t something I’m always going to say, but it’s not just about Yellowknife, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the fact is…

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…places like Poundmakers have a short little form. It is called the three-month follow-up and they do a yearly follow-up and several other types of follow-up. So running into somebody at bingo or at the store is not a follow-up, Mr. Speaker. I would like a formal policy developed so we have our treatment folks that we contract out to have a formal procedure to follow as what I would call a follow-up program. Would the Minister commit to looking into this and establishing a formal program? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Ms. Lee.

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can assure you I was not in any way suggesting that any follow-up was being done in bingo halls. Mr. Speaker, the part of the Mental Health and Addictions Strategy of the North has provided a number of positions that work with the whole continuum of care. There are about 69 community wellness workers all across the Territories and there are lots of other addictions workers, counsellors. There are lots of programs that have been put into place. Understandably, I would like to review, as a Minister, how we are doing in that regard. If there is room for improvement, I think that there is lots of interest on the part of the Members, being that we are a new Assembly, that we want to get into prevention. We want to strengthen the programs available for treatment and addictions strategy at all

spectrums. So, Mr. Speaker, I am willing to work with the Member and the House to see how we could improve this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does "I am willing to work with the Member" mean that, yes, they will do this? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Ms. Lee.

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With all due respect to the Member, this is a highly complex and difficult issue. It is a huge area dealing with addictions and mental health issues. It needs a very comprehensive and focused energy on the part of this Assembly. I am willing to work with the Member on aftercare, before care, prevention, treatment and everything else that has to do with addiction strategy. So, Mr. Speaker, I look forward to working in that regard. I don’t think it is a simple yes or no question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would, first of all, thank the Minister for her commitment on that, but the fact is that it is not a difficult process because I have a two-sided paper. If they are looking for a lengthy bureaucratic approach, I will walk across the way and hand them the paper. We could do this today. We need a policy today so we can start this mechanism today. It is not a lengthy one. Would the Minister clearly say yes they will move forward on this and have something so we can discuss maybe in the next session in February? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Ms. Lee.

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I have to tell you, I don’t really know what it is that he is talking about. I think he is talking about aftercare program. I state that, again, Mr. Speaker, that is an important part of addiction strategy and mental health issue. I am willing to work on that. If the Member wants to provide me with any information that he would like me to look at, I would be happy to look at that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Health and

Social Services, the Honourable Sandy Lee. I would like to thank the Minister for her recent visit to Hay River and her tour of all of the facilities that fall within her department in Hay River. We had a good look around at things. I have heard my colleague talking about some of the working conditions and structural conditions at Stanton Territorial Hospital. Of course, I can’t fail to mention that we have some huge infrastructure challenges with the hospital located in Hay River. Now the Minister has had a chance to have a first-hand look at those. I would like to, first of all, ask the Minister if the $14 million capital carry-over that was identified in the last government’s budget for as a class of an estimate for either redevelopment or renovation of our health facility in Hay River is still on the books today? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Ms. Lee.