Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Roland.
Debates of March 9th, 2007
This is page numbers 1381 - 1424 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this program was set up quite a number of years ago, and it was to be with matched dollars. As that money is drawn down and matched up, it shuts down so it is not put in the budget on an annual basis. It only shows up when a party that has room left and has matching dollars shows up. That is why it shows up in this manner, because it is not an ongoing program. At some point, when all parties that were allocated their portions come up with their matching dollars, this program will shut down. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. We are on page 15, economic development, not previously authorized, $369,000.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Page 16, Environment and Natural Resources, forest management, not previously authorized, $92,000.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Page 17, Executive, capital investment expenditures, regional operations, not previously authorized, $71,000.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Page 18, Human Resources, capital investment expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, $558,000.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Mr. Chair, again, a project initially presented to committee for one price; in this case the upgrade of the human resource information system, the PeopleSoft operating system. It is to provide funding for the higher than anticipated costs of this upgrade originally presented to us in the 2006-07 budget at a cost of $2.001 million, just over $2 million, Mr. Chair, now scoped out at $2.76 million. Mr. Chair, that is an increase of more than one-third within one year on some computer software. We have been dealing with PeopleSoft program for years and we have gone through numerous changes and upgrades in that. Of course computer systems are designed to, but what is continually frustrating again is that, within the space of one fiscal year, we have a computer upgrade allocation that has ballooned by more than a third, $2 million to almost $2.8 million. Mr. Chair, what causes something which, from my perspective, should be relatively straightforward in terms of scoping it out, costing it out and implementing it and actually increase by a third? These are substantial dollars, Mr. Chair. We are talking about three-quarters of a million dollars new money.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this project initiated back in 2006-07, as the Member identified, was initially at just over $2 million. As well, the work that was undergone by the Hackett Group and made recommendations on some of the changes that needed to be done were taken into consideration. The changes as a result of this latest work is a licensing cost for additional modules. That is as a result of, again, the
Hackett Group recommendations saying that we should be utilizing what we have available more efficiently and coming out of what we call a customization of the PeopleSoft program to the original version and going to the 8.9. So the additional licensing cost to have for those additional modules is $314,000. The Helpdesk software is $20,000; upgrade costs and customization assessment was $9,000; hardware, $20,000; training, $110,000; and such service pilot was $85,000 for the $550,000. Thank you.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill Braden Great Slave
You know, Mr. Chair, it seems that the kind of things the Minister just outlined as reasons for the increment are the kinds of things that could easily, and quite properly, have been built into the scoping of this project originally on training, new licensing, a couple of modules or whatever it is. How is it that these things are missed out in the original outline? This, again, Mr. Chair, is where I go back to the reliance that I have on the planners, designers, engineers and builders of our very existence here to bring forward complete and well-thought-out projects or initiatives for me to consider and approve. I have to say that I find the explanation inadequate.
As I indicated at the beginning of our session this afternoon, I am going to be pointing out the projects that I think should really be the department's responsible for bringing them forward should really be looking at why it is they are coming back to the taxpayer to ask for more money when a project has been low-balled or poorly presented in the first place. I don't have any more questions, but I just want to leave that concern very clearly on the table, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 51-15(5): To Delete $682,000 From Human Resources, Operations Expenditures In Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007, Defeated
Revert To Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Calvin Pokiak
Thank you, Mr. Braden. Members, we are on page 18, Human Resources, capital investment expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, $558,000.