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Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I believe our deputy is looking at our affirmative action stats for the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. They are about 68 per cent. Of course, we will seriously consider any recommendation that’s made by committee, recognizing that we have targets we are required to meet, which we have done, and we’d have to look to see what’s possible. At this point we believe we’ve come forward with what is a fair and measured plan to allow us to keep doing business and still meet the targets we were given.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mr.

Miltenberger. Anything further, Mr.

Krutko?

Nothing further?

We’re on page 11-8, an information item, Active Positions — By Region. All agreed?

Department of Environment and Natural

Resources, Department Summary, Active Positions — By Region, information item, approved.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

We’ll move on to 11-9, Active Positions — Community Allocation. Agreed?

Department of Environment and Natural

Resources, Department Summary, Active Positions — Community Allocation, approved.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Moving on. Revenue Summary, page 11-10, information item. Questions? Mr. Ramsay.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a quick question. I’m wondering if the Minister or the deputy minister could comment on the compliance on the remittance of fishing licences. I know we have a number of vendors around the territory, including some fishing lodges that actually sell the fishing licences on-site, and I’m wondering if they have a problem with collecting the revenues from the sale of those fishing licences.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Miltenberger.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you,

Mr. Chairman. Not that we’re aware of, but we can check. I’d also like to point out, just in regard to the fishing licence issue, when we were in Nahendeh, the issue came up — at, I believe it was Trout Lake

— about selling licences in places like Nelson. These folks would fly in, and the only kind of benefit the North would get would be the fishing licences — and they were sold in another jurisdiction. We’ve committed to looking at that. There was also a strong suggestion that we consider raising the price of the fishing licences because they are very, very modest considering the type of resource they are getting for that price. We will check on that issue, but there are some other issues that are, as well, of interest in terms of fishing licences.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

I’d like to thank the Minister for that and certainly look forward to discussions we could have in that regard in the fall when we go through the business plans. Mahsi.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Menicoche.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I’d like to thank the Minister for identifying the Trout Lake issue, and I’d just like to…. It’s been over a month since we brought that issue to his attention. I just want to ask the Minister: has there been any movement toward utilizing Trout Lake and their store, or any small community, and sell fishing licences from them — encourage it? It would generate more revenue if tourists have to purchase in the community.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Bohnet.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bohnet

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. We’re in the process of working on it as we speak. We realize the idea of selling licences in other jurisdictions — people flying in — poses a lot of problems. Many times, that’s not even going to a community. There’s no benefit to the community whatsoever. Another thing is they’re going into lakes that for enforcement purposes we can’t get to. We are committed to working with ITI on that particular issue to make sure we get a good grasp of who the vendors are, where they are located. We are leaning to the idea of no vendors outside the Northwest Territories.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Mr. Bohnet. Mr. Menicoche. That’s all? Right. Next on my list I have Mr. Abernethy.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

He answered the question I was going to ask.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

June 10th, 2008

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Excellent.

Mrs. Groenewegen.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

He answered the question…. No, he didn’t. I’m just kidding.

Laughter.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Under Beverage Container Program showing predicted revenue of $179,000, where does it show what the costs are for undertaking that program: for the payments to the depots, for the transportation of the beverage containers from the communities to central depots, for the money we pay to contractors, for equipment to put in the beverage container recycling yards? Where are all those expenses indicated?

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mrs. Groenewegen. Ms. Magrum.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Magrum

Thank you, Mr.

Chair. The

Environment Fund records revenues on the beverage container surcharges for each of the containers returned, and then the expenses contain all of the items the Member indicated: the transportation…. Those are all expenses of the fund. And then the $179,000 is the projected surplus for 2008–2009.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Ms. Magrum. Mr. Miltenberger.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have a document, a page of detail, that I’d be happy to share with the Members, as opposed to…. Or we could read off. If there are specific numbers the Member would like, we could do that as well. We do have a piece of backup information we’d be happy to share.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you,

Mr.

Miltenberger. Anything further,

Mrs. Groenewegen?

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

I would be interested in seeing that document the Minister offers up.

Under Timber Permits and Licences, is that for cutting firewood, or is that for commercial harvesting?

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chair, that’s a combination, and my own observation in my own community is that probably more and more of it is going to cutting firewood.

Main Estimates 2008–2009 Department Of Environment And Natural Resources
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Bob Bromley

Thank you, Minister. Moving on, Mr. Ramsay.