This is page numbers 3689 - 3722 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was water.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as easy as this next question sounds, it’s not meant to be simple and I believe it’s really

complex. The real issue right now is what is it going to take for this Assembly to get on the radar of the federal government. What is it going to take that this is an important issue to the people of the Northwest Territories as well as the growth of the Northwest Territories? Is there a singular message that we can send for them to realize that we are important and that we mean to do business? Thank you.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

We’ve continued to highlight the significance of that report, their response and the potential impact it would have on the Northwest Territories. I think the bigger question, as the Member has asked, is what are we going to do in the North with the aboriginal leadership and ourselves coming together in a common voice saying this is where we think we can work together and pursue the changes that are required. So I think that’s the avenue that we are going to start to put our energies into, is start coming up with a common message and support from a northern perspective on that initiative. Meanwhile, we continue to do our piece and try to see what can be moved along, but the real change will come when we use a regional aboriginal leadership table to pursue these types of initiatives. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Environment and Natural resources. We all know that we have an extraordinary high cost of living in the Northwest Territories. Yet, even though we are sitting on some of the best fresh water in the world here, we continue to import, in little clear bottles, tons of water. I don’t know how many millions of bottles or hundreds of thousands of bottles. I don’t have those statistics with me today. But as the Minister responsible for the stewardship of our environment, what is this department doing to discourage people from consuming bottled water? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we’re spending millions of dollars to make sure that communities have good potable water. We have recycling to encourage people to return their containers and they’ve been going down south. There are abilities there for communities to pass bylaws about water. There would be an ability for this Legislature to send out

the message that we’re not going to have bottled water at any of our functions.

The Member raised a lot of the very critical statistics in terms of the impact and cost of energy for bottled water. I agree with her that we have some of the best water in the world and it’s puzzling when you go to communities and you see water brought in from Ontario or from...(inaudible). So those are some of the things that we are doing and some things that can be done. Thank you.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

The department, I don’t know what department launched this campaign, but there was a Drop the Pop campaign because of the high sugar content in pop and soft drinks and the harm that that is bringing to people’s health. Has the Minister ever contemplated some type of similar campaign to drop the bottled water?

As I mentioned in my Member’s statement, we here in the Legislative Assembly do not use bottled water anymore, but I don’t think people are aware. I really don’t think the awareness is there, because why would people spend the kind of money that it costs to ship bottled water into the Northwest Territories when our water is better, and a lot of the bottled water just comes straight out of a tap anyway and probably doesn’t even meet the scrutiny that our standards for drinking water does. Has the Minister ever contemplated a campaign to discourage people from importing and drinking bottled water?

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of all the things on the to-do list, the answer would be, regrettably at this point, no. Thank you.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

I would think that even through our education system and throughout schools, there would be a ready avenue to affect the thinking and the knowledge of young people on this very important topic. I know in the schools, too, there has been a campaign to get away from junk food and unhealthy beverages. Would the Minister see collaborating with the Department of Education on such a campaign to be an easy and perhaps cost-effective way to get the message out to our younger citizens about the unnecessary consumption of bottled water? Thank you.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I think that has potential. As well, as I indicated in my early answer, the municipalities have the authority, as well, in their jurisdictions to pass the bylaws about if there is going to be bottled water allowed or not at public events and those types of things. I will talk to my colleagues. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess to some extent even speaking about this in

the Chamber is some way of creating some public awareness. Mr. Speaker, it’s my impression that with the Beverage Recycling Program, it’s a bit of a conflicted message. People say if I buy this lovely case of 36 bottles of water in plastic bottles, I am recycling those so I am doing something really good for the environment. But it’s a bit of a double standard, a bit of a mixed message. A lot of the beverage containers that we bring in here we probably shouldn’t have them in the first place. Is there any opportunity through the recycling of the Beverage Container Program that we want people to bring back beverage bottles, but we don’t even want them to use them in the first place? Is there an opportunity through that program that already exists to deter people from drinking beverages in small containers? Thank you.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

In fact, we are soon going to be processing and recycling our 100 millionth container in the very near future. The issue is to encourage people to bring back the containers. I agree with the Member that there is possibly an opportunity to look at a stronger message about not drinking bottled water at all in conjunction with the communities’ education and health to promote the benefits of drinking local water. I will pursue that with my colleagues. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement was regarding the income support cheques and why are the cheques declining in the amounts. People have been noticing the department changing the way cheques are delivered, the amounts are going down. What makes the situation worse is the amount has gone down more than once this past year. People are concerned with the uncertainty. They are wondering if their cheques will go down the next time.

Mr. Speaker, will the government provide community governments with a plain language summary of why residents’ income support cheques have been declining? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with respect to the issuance of monthly cheques, it could vary in various circumstances where individuals may not have provided enough information such as a tax return or a tax refund, whether it be a source of income has changed or there has been a deposit into their bank account without informing the client service officers.

So there are all these areas attached to the information providing.

Certainly we can have our staff do an informal or formal presentation to community government if that needs to happen. We certainly want community members to be aware of the programs that are available to them. If there are issues, then we need to highlight those issues. One of the challenges is those clients need to provide as much information in a timely fashion or else there are going to be challenges like we are faced with today. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, will this government re-evaluate the way income support cheques are distributed and how various government departments deal with their residents in smaller remote communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, we are always re-evaluating our program to make it successful into the communities, especially the most isolated communities. Certainly we can take on the task. We need to find out what is truly happening in the communities. Like I said, we have our client service officers or on-duty client service officers that do their work. At the same time, sometimes it is out of our hands where not enough or a lack of information has been provided, so that creates more frustration for clientele. At the same time, they have to come with the full information. So certainly we can do our part and meet with the community. Mahsi.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, given that the government currently administers income support, it is not working. Given that the people, especially in our smaller remote communities, are suffering, will this government commit to immediate changes proposed by the communities and MLAs so people don’t have to suffer anymore, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the Member is referring to a generic area of challenges. We need to find out the root cause. What is the real issue? Like I said, it could be the lack of information being provided. That is always the case, Mr. Speaker, dealing with client service officers. Concerns come in. It is almost always, 80 to 90 percent of the time, that not enough information has been provided. I think that we need to strengthen that area. Certainly that would be our clear message to the communities when we visit the community. Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final supplementary, Mr. Jacobson.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, we ask for too much information sometimes. The people are suffering in the communities, Mr. Speaker. I brought this up for the last two years I have been here, that

people need help. Too much information in regards to the way this program has been run. They should get out to the communities sooner than later, hopefully before Christmas by the time we come back for meetings. Mr. Speaker, if the Minister needs help doing it, I am here to help him. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. I’m not sure I heard a question there. Mr. Lafferty, do you want to respond?

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Member is there for me as well to assist me. I think we need to collaborate on this, because I don’t have all the answers. I certainly don’t know exactly what is happening on a day-to-day basis in the Member’s riding. Certainly that information will be available for our department. Certainly I will look forward to working with that. Mahsi.