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Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

There are templates across the country that are similar when you look at our size. The one closest to us, of course, is Nunavut. As the Member pointed out in her Member’s statement, when division occurred, we took a stance. At the time, the government-of-the-day took a stance where it was focused on the business entity, as arm’s length as possible. The Nunavut government has taken a different approach and we’d have to look at that model to see if it’s worked in that location. I know they’ve been pressed with their issues around the cost of energy as well. But through this energy rate review process and working with Members of the Assembly, we would be, again, as part of this process, engaging in some of the big picture look at how we deliver, and is the process we’re under the best way to do it. So those things are up for discussion with Members. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, this may be a slightly technical question, but I’ll ask the Premier

in a general way, has some analysis been undertaken that would indicate the cost-savings if the Power Corporation were not operated as an arm’s length Crown corporation but as an entity providing power not on a for-profit basis but just as an essential service on a cost basis. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Mr. Speaker, my understanding, again, through the rate review that’s been ongoing, the cost of service versus a rate of return is one of the areas that has been discussed and some recommendations made around when you look at the different zones that are being contemplated in that report. So that is an area of looking at cost of services versus rate of return. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just, I suppose, for the comfort of those people out there who know this electricity rate review is going on, I would like to ask the Premier if any of the recommendations considered are going to result in any increased power rates for any community in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I apologize for that. In the shuffling of my papers I didn’t catch the last part of the Member’s question. So if I could have that repeated. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

We are considering the rate review report. I’m sure people out there are wondering about what will be the outcome of that deliberation. I’d just like to, for the record today, have the Premier tell us if any of those recommendations would indicate increased power rates in any community in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Mr. Speaker, the initial report that came out that was presented did show there was a balancing of, for example, corporate costs, the headquarter costs across the board. So there would be some redistribution there. There was some impact on hydro communities as well. That was what was presented.

Since our initial discussions with Members of the Assembly, we’ve looked at other ways of mitigating those costs and bringing forward a process that would lessen the impact on any community of any increases and try to come up with lowering the cost overall and stabilizing those costs. So I would say that in our response as the GNWT, we believe we’ve come up with a package that would, in fact, stabilize those costs or reduce costs overall. There are some issues we have yet to deal with on community service by NUL and the Power Corp specifically. Thank you.

Question 295-16(4): High Cost Of Power In The NWT
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Item 8, written questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Written Question 19-16(4): Details On NWTHC Program Applications
Written Questions

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

Regarding the NWTHC programs PATH, HELP, CARE AND STEP:

1. How many applications have been received in

the Mackenzie Delta between 2005 and 2009?

2. How many have been approved in the

Mackenzie Delta between 2005 and 2009?

3. How many have been refused in the

Mackenzie Delta between 2005 and 2006?

Written Question 19-16(4): Details On NWTHC Program Applications
Written Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Written Question 19-16(4): Details On NWTHC Program Applications
Written Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to go back to item 7 of the orders of the day.

---Unanimous consent granted.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister of Justice some questions in regard to a tabled document he had on February 8, in terms of he’s going to ask the Supreme Court of Canada some questions. I’m not too clear in terms of what this Minister is asking, because in the tabled document he indicated the Bathurst caribou herd and later on in the document he talked about the barren-ground caribou in the Northwest Territories. I want to ask for clarification from the Minister.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister responsible for Justice, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what we’re dealing with here is barren land caribou. The question that we’re posing to the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories is: did the GNWT have the authority to issue the banning on the caribou. Mahsi.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you for the clarification, Minister. So it’s the barren land caribou. The barren land caribou covers a wide range of jurisdictions. I want to ask, in terms how it affects the Gwich’in, the Inuvialuit, the Sahtu and the Tlicho in the Mackenzie Delta in terms of the authority, because we certainly have land claim agreements that speak to the authority. I want to ask the Minister in terms of how this is going to be impacted on the various

other land claim groups and also the groups that would have treaty rights, groups that are not in the land claim discussion right now, in terms of Treaty 8 and Treaty 11.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, this is a generic question to the Supreme Court. We’re asking if the GNWT has the authority. We want to clarify that, because there are a lot of questions from the organizations throughout the Northwest Territories, if the GNWT has the authority to ban caribou hunting. So that’s the question that we’re throwing out there. Mahsi.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, that’s a very disturbing answer from the Minister in terms of banning caribou. This is right down the Northwest Territories. We certainly have agreements that speak to the authority and the management of caribou. Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister, through his wisdom, in terms of we passed a motion to consult. How come he didn’t come to us to talk about we want to have this discussion and pose the questions to the Supreme Court of Canada? I never had him once come to us and ask us. You are putting a question that is going to be fighting our people. How come he didn’t come to this side here and talk about this and consult, rather than going to the courts? This is a really disturbing question to the courts there.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Premier, Mr. Roland.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This area the question that the Minister of Justice has put forward on our behalf is one that addresses the issue of authority in the Northwest Territories. When you have your own Members of the Legislative Assembly questioning your authority under the NWT Act, we clearly need to address the issue. We believe we have the authority. This is a confirmation. There are too many times in the history of our Government of the Northwest Territories when it comes to issues around what and how we affect aboriginal peoples in the programs we deliver. From time to time it has come up and it has been said that we don’t have the authority, that we are a government with limited authority. Well, let’s clear the question once and for all, so that even Members of this Assembly elected under the authority established under the NWT Act will clearly know where they can stand as Members of this government. Thank you.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You go back into communities. This question always comes up to us as Members in terms of the authority of the federal government, the authority of the territorial government, even the authority of the federal government in the region. I guess I want to ask how come, instead of going to the Members across

here, this government decides to go to the courts and look to seek authority? Certainly they could have come to us, consulted with the Members and talked about this issue here. Now it is fighting our people. I am not here to fight my people. I am here to support my people. I ask that to whichever Ministers, when I ask in terms of coming to consult with us. How come they have not come down and sat with us and talked about this important issue?

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Premier

Mr. Speaker, the legislation is clear. Under advisement of the Cabinet, the Minister can pose a question to the Supreme Court. This is not challenging aboriginal leadership in the Northwest Territories. This is going to provide final clarification on who has authority. That is not taken lightly, because when you have your own Members of the Legislative Assembly raising issue of whose authority, that definitely needs to be cleared up. So we have provided that avenue. The courts have their own process now which will seek input from all of the people that they feel is necessary across the Northwest Territories. There will be ample opportunity for them to do their work and answer the question that we have posed. Clearly, Mr. Speaker, there is risk of doing this, in a sense, from the Government of the Northwest Territories itself, because if the question comes back and it clarifies that, indeed, the GNWT was not on the same ground that we believe we were, then we will have to change our policies forward from here. So I think, Mr. Speaker, this is not a challenge to leadership. This is setting for the record in clarifying who actually has that authority so that this is not a question that has to come up in debate and further debate in the future. Thank you.

Question 296-16(4): Caribou Conservation Measures
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 297-16(4): Appeals Process For NWTHC Programs
Oral Questions (Reversion)

February 9th, 2010

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to follow up with the Minister of Housing on the line of questioning that Mr. Krutko had with regard to an appeal system. That is something that I have been working with the Minister and previous Ministers in establishing an appeal system for the clients out there. The people that are telling them no aren’t the people we should be appealing to, Mr. Speaker. That is why we are looking towards setting up an independent appeal system. In fact, it was approved last fiscal year. They had the appeal system. Where exactly is this appeal system, Mr. Speaker?