This is page numbers 923 - 956 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

Effects Of The High Cost Of Living In The NWT
Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you can tell, we are going on a theme here. We are talking about the high cost of living in the Northwest Territories. For anybody that doesn’t see it, it would be a good opportunity to go into the communities and see how hard our people have to struggle in the smaller communities.

This is something that affects us all. We talk about the high cost of food, but it does affect our communities, where we’re actually putting people into poverty throughout the Northwest Territories.

We had a good discussion today on mental health and addictions and how people who go into poverty get stressed out, they get depressed, they get a sense of hopelessness; hopelessness within the system, within our government, within our community and with our community leaders and territorial leaders. We need to take action where we can help our people out and get a comfortable type of living just so they can live.

The cost of living is so high in the Northwest Territories that the Minister of Housing and the department of Housing put in a Rent Supplement Program, and I applaud him for that to help the working poor, the people who do have jobs and live in good living conditions, but they have a hard time making it in their communities. So I applaud the Minister and his department for that, for helping us and assisting us that way. However, with the increase in our electricity and our energy bills and the money taken away from our energy initiatives, we’re putting more money away in this government. That’s affecting our people. I always talk about if we invest now, we don’t have to pay later and our people will have a better, healthier lifestyle.

The Minister of Human Resources mentioned today he has to modernize the Recruitment Strategy, which is great because he needs to find innovative ways because we’re having a hard time getting professionals in the North within certain jobs because of the high cost of living. It’s hard to get people who want to come up here and try to make a living when all of their money is going to pay bills, pay for groceries, pay fuel costs, market rent or the

high cost of living with the houses. It’s a reality. We see it here in Yellowknife, we see it in Inuvik, we see it in the smaller communities.

It’s time that we help our small communities and start making some really good decisions in here that will help our people in the Northwest Territories.

Effects Of The High Cost Of Living In The NWT
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Your time for Member’s statement… Okay. Thank you, Mr. Moses. The Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Alternative Energy Options To Reduce The Cost Of Living
Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Along with my 12 colleagues, I’m concerned with the growing cost of living in the North. Many people are finding it difficult to pay their monthly bills. Every time you turn around, the cost of food, water, taxes, fuel and, more recently, the price of power is going up. These people are the majority of the Northwest Territories, the general public, and the high cost of living especially affects the middleclass and lower-income people throughout the North.

The public is looking to this government to find ways to reduce the high cost of living. Many people are finding ways to reduce their costs and reduce their dependence on power and fuels.

My experienced colleagues have demanded that this government look at ways to reduce the cost of living. I would like to discuss two ways I feel that can be effective and it’s attainable during the life of this Assembly.

I believe that biomass is a great return on investment. It is a renewable resource; it is a product of a valuable commodity: lumber. Biomass also has great potential for heat and for power as well.

The second tool that I believe this government can use to reduce the costs is through the hydropower system and the expansion of our power system. The expansion of the hydro system must link to the southern grid to both NWT hydro systems. The system then can expand north up the Mackenzie Valley.

The high cost of living is a growing monster. Because these high costs are spreading to business as well, all residents are affected and they are affected in the cost of fuel, food, rent and all aspects of people’s lives. We need to come up with a plan to stop and reduce the escalating cost of living in the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Alternative Energy Options To Reduce The Cost Of Living
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Addressing The Root Causes Of High Power Rates
Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Electricity, we can’t live without it. We grumble every time the power bill comes in. It drives up the costs of living in our communities. Next to food and rent or housing costs, our power bill is the one element that most contributes to our high cost of living in the North.

Two and a half years ago the government reviewed electricity rates in the NWT. As a result, power rates across most of the NWT were changed, for the better, mind you. Those rates were frozen for two years. Those two years are up right now and we’re about to feel the result of that freeze as our power bills are set to increase 25 percent in the next three and a half years. To soften the blow, the government now chooses to subsidize that rate increase instead of addressing the root causes of our high power bills.

We need to reduce our reliance on diesel generation and look to green, renewable sources of power. We had the opportunity to start down that road three years ago. Instead of pouring money into subsidies we should have applied that money to energy initiatives. Initiatives like determining alternative sources for power generation, greener sources, cheaper sources. We did not.

In 2009 the general view of those consulted on electricity rates was that it was time for the creation of a long-term vision for electricity and almost all believed that the GNWT should develop, direct and lead such a vision. The GNWT chose the easy road and left any thought of a vision behind.

It will take a long time to transform any vision into real projects to achieve cheap power sources for each and every one of our communities. That’s not a reason not to start. The 16

th Assembly showed

some recognition of the urgency of the issue and committed $60 million to energy projects over the life of the Assembly. In the 17

th Assembly that

funding has come to a screeching halt, nowhere to be found.

We can’t keep throwing money at our high power rates and taking such short-term actions. We have to take a longer-term view of the problem and that means putting money into the 2012-2013 budget to attack the root causes of our high power bills. If we don’t, we’re doomed to ever-increasing power bills, an ever-increasing cost of living, and an exodus of people leaving the NWT because of it.

Addressing The Root Causes Of High Power Rates
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Colleagues, before we go on I would like to remind you that when a Member is speaking, the mics can really pick up sidebar conversations. Please give the Member the attention they are due for their statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Blake.

High Price Of Fuel In Northern Remote Communities
Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement will be on the price of fuel. Before I get into that, many people in the Mackenzie Delta right now are out on the land boating, hunting muskrats, ducks, enjoying life up there. One of their biggest challenges is the price of fuel.

In Aklavik many residents pay $1.88 for one litre of gas. In Tsiigehtchic it’s $1.77. In Fort McPherson, which was the least expensive in the Mackenzie Delta, it’s $1.65.

Many people in Aklavik would like to see some type of subsidy for their gas. The gasoline in Tsiigehtchic is subsidized but, as you can tell, it doesn’t make much of a difference compared to the community of Fort McPherson, which is 57 kilometres away.

I believe that this government needs to do something to tackle this problem and give everybody the same type of fuel prices throughout the Northwest Territories.

High Price Of Fuel In Northern Remote Communities
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again I’d like to recognize the J.H. Sissons Grade 4 class led by their teacher Catherine Siegbahn. I want to thank them for attending today’s session. As promised, I will see them later next week and show them where their stories are tabled on the official Hansard forever. Thank you again and thank you for listening attentively.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to welcome the Grade 4 class and especially recognize an extraordinary young lady, Ms. Rae Panayi. I would as well like to recognize a fiddler extraordinaire, Mr. Cameron Bond.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. I’d like to welcome all visitors to the public gallery here today. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings. Thank you and welcome.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Item 8, written questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Written Question 6-17(3): Yellowknife Office Space
Written Questions

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The GNWT has recently concluded an assessment of the relative costs of owning and renting office space in Yellowknife and the impact the GNWT has on local market. My questions are for the Minister of Public Works and Services and relate to the Yellowknife office space market.

1. As of February 2012, what were the

percentages for inventory use and vacancy rates for the Yellowknife office market for both Class A and Class B rents? What was the square footage, in both feet and metres, of these spaces?

2. Currently, what are the percentages for

inventory use and vacancy rates for the Yellowknife office market for both Class A and Class B rents? What is the square footage, in both feet and metres, of these spaces?

3. Once the new GNWT 60,000 square foot office

building is operational, what will be the predicted percentages for inventory use and vacancy rates for the Yellowknife office market for both Class A and Class B rents? What will be the square footage, in both feet and metres, of these spaces?

Written Question 6-17(3): Yellowknife Office Space
Written Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Tabled Document 17-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 7, 2010-2011 Tabled Document 18-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2010-2011 Tabled Document 19-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2012-2013 Tabled Doc
Tabling of Documents

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following three documents, entitled “Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 7, 2010-2011;” “Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures, No. 4, 2010-2011;” and “Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2012-2013.”

As well, I wish to table the following document, entitled “A Review of Cost Pressures Facing the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, March 2012.”

Tabled Document 17-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 7, 2010-2011 Tabled Document 18-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2010-2011 Tabled Document 19-17(3): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2012-2013 Tabled Doc
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Tabled Document 21-17(3): Compendium Of Stories By Grade 4 Students In Ms. Siegbahn’s Class At J.h. Sissons School
Tabling of Documents

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a great pleasure that I table the Compendium of Stories from the J.H. Sissons Grade 4 Class by their teacher Catherine Siegbahn.

Lastly I’ll say I’ll encourage all Members to take the opportunity and such to encourage their students in their communities to try something similar. The kids are quite proud of the opportunity.

Tabled Document 21-17(3): Compendium Of Stories By Grade 4 Students In Ms. Siegbahn’s Class At J.h. Sissons School
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 15, notices of motion. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Motion 7-17(3): Appointment Of Human Rights Commission Members
Notices of Motion

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, June 8, 2012, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Monfwi, that the Legislative Assembly recommend the appointment of the following individuals to the Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission:

Mrs. Marion Berls of the town of Fort Smith, for a term of four years;

Mr. Charles Dent of the city of Yellowknife, for a term of four years;

Mrs. Bronwyn Watters of the city of Yellowknife, for a term of four years;

And further, that pursuant to Section 17(2) of the Human Rights Act, Mr. Yacub Adam of the city of Yellowknife, be reappointed for an additional term to expire on October 30, 2014;

And furthermore, that the Speaker be authorized to communicate the effective date of these appointments to the Commissioner.

Motion 7-17(3): Appointment Of Human Rights Commission Members
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Blake.

Motion 8-17(3): Appointment Of The Equal Pay Commissioner
Notices of Motion

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, June 8, 2012, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Kam Lake, that Ms. Nitya Iyer be appointed as the Equal Pay Commissioner in accordance with the Public Service Act by the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories as recommended the Legislative Assembly;

And further, that the Speaker be authorized to communicate the effective date of the appointment to the Commissioner.

Motion 8-17(3): Appointment Of The Equal Pay Commissioner
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Motion 9-17(3): Establishment Of An Independent Ombudsman’s Office
Notices of Motion

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, June 8, 2012, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Sahtu, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories bring

forward legislation to establish an independent parliamentary ombudsman office with the mandate to investigate complaints about the practices and services of public agencies and to promote fair, reasonable, appropriate and equitable administrative practices and services;

And further, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a comprehensive response to this motion within 120 days. Thank you.

Motion 9-17(3): Establishment Of An Independent Ombudsman’s Office
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 2-17(3), Commissioner’s Opening Address: Creating the Conditions for Success; Tabled Document 3-17(3), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2012-2013; Bill 1, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act; Committee Report 1-17(3), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2010-2011 Annual Report of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories; Committee Report 2-17(3), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2010-2011 Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission Annual Report, with Mr. Dolynny in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Good afternoon, committee. I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order. Today on our agenda we have a number of tabled documents: Tabled Document 2-17(3), Commissioner’s Opening Address: Creating the Conditions for Success; Tabled Document 3-17(3), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2012-2013; Bill 1, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act; Committee Report 1-17(3), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2010-2011 Annual Report of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories; Committee Report 2-17(3), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2010-2011 Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission Annual Report. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Menicoche.