This is page numbers 2827 – 2862 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was devolution.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize all the distinguished guests, the chiefs and others that we have in the gallery today. I wanted to specifically recognize Ms. Kathy Gray, president of the Northwest Territories Chamber of Commerce, and executive director Mr. Mike Bradshaw for all the work that they helped in contributing to the Economic Opportunities Strategy

As well, I wanted to thank the devolution team, Martin Goldney, Penny Ballantyne and the rest of the staff that have put in such a great effort in getting us the deal that we’ve got. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. I also would like to welcome here today my son Mitchell, my daughter Kirstin, and my oldest daughter, Chelsey, who’s back from Texas.

I would also like to welcome my sister Mavis Jacobson, Ms. Melody McLeod, the Premier’s wife, and Mrs. Bromley. It’s always good to see our other halves, our Members’ wives here in the House supporting their husbands. Their better halves.

Item 6, acknowledgements. The Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Acknowledgement 5-17(4): 2013 Premier’s Award - Ralph Sanquez
Acknowledgements

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to acknowledge Ralph Sanguez, who received the 2013 Premier’s Individual Award. He’s a hardworking employee for MACA, a strong representative of our local fire department, and soon to be a proud father. I’d like to wish him and Shannon good luck with the birth of their child.

Acknowledgement 5-17(4): 2013 Premier’s Award - Ralph Sanquez
Acknowledgements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Acknowledgement 6-17(4): 2013 Premier’s Award – Colville Lake Tommy Kochon Airport Team
Acknowledgements

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to congratulate the Colville Lake Tommy Kochon Airport Team for the 2013 Premier’s Award of Excellence today. The Tommy Kochon Airport was officially opened on October 9, 2012, and was a significant gain for the people in Colville Lake. I applaud the people of Colville Lake and their leaders in their hard work and dedication towards their community. This award is well deserved.

Acknowledgement 6-17(4): 2013 Premier’s Award – Colville Lake Tommy Kochon Airport Team
Acknowledgements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Bromley.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Minister of ENR, the Minister of Environment. I’d like to follow up on questions I had the other day about fracking.

In the unedited Hansard of June 3rd , on page 24,

Minister Miltenberger said we are of the opinion that if, in fact, ConocoPhillips complies with everything that they’ve promised plus the extensive list of mitigating factors put forward by GNWT, this project could proceed, other than meeting those commitments by ConocoPhillips and addressing the concerns raised that we have supplied to the Sahtu Land and Water Board.

Conoco did not, in fact, agree to address many of the options raised by the GNWT. In fact, in the areas of technology, options for burning waste, gases, air emissions, assessment and screening level modeling, groundwater and surface water protection are very key areas for environmental protection, and as I know, dear to the Minister’s heart. Accordingly, the Minister’s faith in Conoco was unwarranted. So will the Minister adjust his opinion based on the facts clearly on record?

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a process underway. The Member has raised some concerns. He has a different point of view than we do as a government, so we’ll have to agree to disagree on that particular issue.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I’m not sure if the Minister is saying that this is, in fact, incorrect. I’m sure, in fact, that these are facts. They are contrary to what the Minister has said, and that’s my point.

The Minister also claimed that the Sahtu Land and Water Board would adopt these, and in fact, the Sahtu Land and Water Board also rejected the terms and conditions that the GNWT put forward in these areas, so this is further evidence that there is a need for an environmental review here.

Could I get clarity on what the Minister is saying here? Clearly, his statements were wrong, as per the record, as this is on record to be available at the touch of a button here. Is the Minister saying he’s not willing to adjust his opinion in the face of contrary facts?

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

We have submitted the position of the territorial government. We have reviewed the application from

ConocoPhillips. Those are the two facts that I put on the record yesterday.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

There were additional facts that the Minister put forward, and I’m quoting verbatim from the unedited Hansard here. The Minister also said that there was a big distinction between the MGM application and ConocoPhillips. The Minister said, “The ConocoPhillips application is very comprehensive. It covers a whole host of areas, which is one of the reasons there was a different decision made by the Sahtu Land and Water Board when they looked at the MGM proposal. It didn’t have the same depth and level of comprehensiveness as the ConocoPhillips one does.”

Well, in fact, there were others interested. The Sahtu Renewable Resources Board, for example, renewable resources councils, and they actually did a line-by-line comparison, and in fact, there were very few improvements to the Conoco application, but they are equally bad on a number of important points. Conoco certainly had a lot more effort in making friends inside and outside the region, and perhaps that’s good…(inaudible)…but unless by depth and level of comprehensiveness that Minister Miltenberger means the application had more nice pictures, it was longer and had a better explanation of Fracking 101, then the application does not provide any more.

Again, will the Minister look into these facts, which are contrary to what he said in the House, and consider adjusting his opinion to the protection of the public interest?

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The information I provided to the House was accurate. The Member is quoting chapter and verse from some document, some feedback he’s providing this House that I don’t have before me, and of course, we always check when there are issues raised by the Members and they query the actions of government and they ask us to double check. Of course, we’ll do that.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m glad to finally get that commitment. These are the Minister’s words, and the record. The vast improvement in the application, as the Minister claimed, doesn’t hold up. The conditions that the Minister suggested would be adopted by ConocoPhillips and the Sahtu Land…(inaudible)…don’t hold up.

What action does the Minister see is needed here in light of these facts to protect the public interest, the clean air, water, and health of the wildlife and their habitat that this Minister is responsible for? I’m looking for accountability here.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

What we have is a lot of assertions and opinions by the Member. He says they’re facts. He asked me to check. We’ll check.

Question 308-17(4): Conocophillips Application Concerning Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. During my Member’s statement I raised many of the issues in Nahanni Butte that haven’t been completely restored or repaired in the community of Nahanni Butte as a result of the flood. I know that through MACA they have established a flood committee to address their concerns, but I would like to ask the Minister today what committee or process is in place to continue the community restoration one year after the flood.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is right; there was a flood committee we had made. All the claims have come in and the recommended compensation. We have submitted a claim to Canada for reimbursement under their Disaster Assistance Program.

As far as the committee that’s together now to do the rest of the work, I don’t think there’s a committee per se. It’s probably the individual departments now working with the community.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I was very happy to be in Nahanni Butte for my spring visit there, and the community has advised me that the damages are still there. There is some work that hasn’t been done. The dump road. They’re going to have to look at increasing dust control and the cost for trying to get the radio station up and running. Those are the issues.

I’d like to ask the MACA Minister if he or his officials can meet with the community, because they’re looking at their own resources to repair these when, in fact, it should be under the purview of MACA and the Disaster Fund.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

I will commit to the Member that we will have our officials meet with the leadership in Nahanni Butte to identify some of the work that still needs to happen. As well, the other departments. I know DOT is doing some work on their portion of it. I will make that commitment to the Member that we will get our officials in there to work with the leadership. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I am thankful for the Minister’s commitment. If he can also work with the Department of Transportation, because there is

road access issues and, as well, it will probably be the same type of gravel that they need for the community, as well, if he can do that. Thank you.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, we will work with the other department to see what assistance that we may be able to provide to the community, and I will commit to the Member that we will do that. Thank you.

Question 309-17(4): Flood Damage And Restoration In Nahanni Butte
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.