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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. Minister responsible of the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, Mr. Miltenberger.

Minister's Statement 2-17(5): Report On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation
Ministers’ Statements

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories Power Corporation is working to provide residents, communities and businesses of the Northwest Territories with a safe and reliable source of electricity that is both cost effective and environmentally sustainable.

NTPC’s renewed strategic plan is aligned with a number of this Assembly’s key strategies, from the Greenhouse Gas Strategy, the Biomass Energy Strategy and the Solar Strategy, to the Energy Plan and Power System Plan that will soon be tabled in the Legislature.

NTPC plays a critical role in our government’s plan to move the territory’s energy supply away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy sources which are cleaner and less vulnerable to price fluctuations. We are starting to see real success in this area at the community level.

Take the 100 kilowatt Fort Simpson Solar Energy Project, the largest solar installation in the North. The project demonstrated that solar technology can work in the North, and delivered on the objectives of the NWT’s Solar Strategy. The energy output is equivalent to powering 17 houses in the community and removing more than 76 tonnes of CO

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air. It also strengthens the case for NTPC’s net metering program which provides the tools for customers to benefit from supplying surplus solar power into the grid. NTPC is also working with communities to explore other renewable energy sources, including small hydro. Over the past year we have installed a water monitoring station on the

Kakisa River which will help to define the hydro potential that could one day power the community.

In Colville Lake we are now in the design phase of a project that will see a solar/diesel/battery system that will shut down the diesel plant for extended periods in the summer. It is anticipated this hybrid energy solution could significantly reduce diesel use and related emissions by supplying most of the community’s energy requirements during the summer. This initiative is of interest to communities in the NWT and is being watched closely by utilities in other jurisdictions such as Alaska.

In addition to advancing renewable energy projects, NTPC continues to transition towards environmentally-sound and cost-effective energy choices. A territory-wide program to replace traditional streetlights with LEDs will convert one or two communities per year and cut operating costs of the lights in half. Those savings will be shared with customers. Gameti was the first community to benefit earlier this year. Lutselk’e and Jean Marie River are next on the list.

Mr. Speaker, as we build momentum with these community-based power generation and conservation initiatives, more communities and customers will start to see how they can help improve the energy future of the NWT.

The storage facility for liquefied natural gas, or LNG, is nearing completion in Inuvik. Construction commenced in the late summer, with tanks and equipment arriving in September. The facility will be operational by the end of November.

LNG is cleaner with more than a 25 percent reduction in emissions and a lower-cost fuel that will displace diesel in Inuvik. LNG shows promise for reducing emissions and lowering costs in our road-connected diesel communities. Since 1964, LNG has maintained the best safety record of any fossil fuel. It is safer to transport and store than diesel and it leaves no trace in the event of a spill.

We are hopeful that following a successful transition to LNG in Inuvik, we will be able to expand use of LNG to other road-connected communities like Fort Simpson, Fort Liard, Fort McPherson and possibly Jean Marie River. Feasibility of winter road communities – Deline, Tulita, Norman Wells, Fort Good Hope, Tsiigehtchic and Tuktoyaktuk – will also be explored. Despite its

exceptional safety record, Mr. Speaker, we must recognize that LNG is new to the NWT and that communities will need more information and dialogue in order to feel confident about its potential.

In Yellowknife the key issue remains reliability. NTPC is committed to making improvements and has pledged to achieve a 70 percent reduction in the frequency of power interruptions over the next three years. This would bring the average number of NTPC interruptions down to five or less per year in Yellowknife. This fall the corporation reported significant progress, with 47 percent fewer outages than last year. While there is still much work to be done in comparison with the national average of 2.5 outages per year, I have confidence that the 15-point plan developed by NTPC will result in ongoing and noticeable improvements.

Mr. Speaker, NTPC is also keeping the big picture in mind. The corporation is actively investigating the potential for a transmission grid project that could transform the electricity industry in the Northwest Territories, stabilize and reduce the cost of power and significantly improve the conditions for economic development.

The vision is to build an integrated power transmission grid between the North Slave and South Slave hydro systems that attracts industrial customers and connects to the Canadian grid.

Mr. Speaker, this represents a big undertaking, with big potential benefits for the NWT and for Canada. Securing our energy future by providing much needed infrastructure would allow us to dramatically reduce reliance on diesel generation, including industrial loads. It would also mean we could provide residents and businesses with power at a lower cost, which would in turn stimulate economic activity.

Such a system would provide an energy highway for us to move existing hydro power around the territory in response to demand and to import electricity from the South when northern demand exceeds supply. In the future this would also position the NWT to expand our hydro potential to better meet our domestic needs while moving our cost of electricity more in line with the rest of Canada over time.

We have initiated discussions with the federal government to remove financial barriers and invest in energy infrastructure to make this project a reality. We are in preliminary discussions with Saskatchewan and Alberta with respect to connecting to their grid. I am looking forward to seeing where these discussions lead.

Mr. Speaker, NTPC is also striving to keep power affordable for all its customers. The general rate application process is winding down, and while no one welcomes the resulting rate increases, I can

assure you that we have worked to lessen the impact on customers, by avoiding large increases and spreading smaller increases out over time.

As an employer, NTPC continues to make the development of a northern workforce its key human resource priority. This year NTPC hired four local apprentices: an apprentice power lineperson and an apprentice diesel mechanic in Fort Simpson, an apprentice electrician in Fort Smith and an apprentice power lineperson located in Inuvik. The corporation has also recently recruited an apprentice electrician in Fort Simpson, has an offer pending to an apprentice diesel mechanic in Yellowknife and competitions closing for apprentice power linepersons in Fort Smith and Inuvik.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to acknowledge the overall level of collaboration I am seeing between our government and NTPC. This has resulted in better alignment between GNWT and NTPC goals and objectives.

NTPC will continue to work in partnership with government, communities, industry and its customers. Given the critical role power plays in the future prosperity of the NWT, this type of collaboration can only strengthen the position of our territory today and in the years to come. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

Minister's Statement 2-17(5): Report On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation
Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Colleagues, before we go on today, I’d like to welcome to the House our Clerk of the Assembly. It’s Take Our Kids to Work Day. Ms. Hannah Schauerte is with her father here today, Doug Schauerte, who is our Clerk.

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Welcome to the Assembly, Hannah. Minister of Public Work and Services, Mr. Beaulieu.

Minister's Statement 3-17(5): 2013 Project Management Conference
Ministers’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, effective and efficient government is one of this Assembly’s goals. One of the ways that the Department of Public Works and Services will be helping to support this goal is by hosting the 14th Project Management Conference from December 3rd to 5th . This conference draws together project

management experts to share their experiences and discuss best practices and innovative approaches to managing infrastructure projects more efficiently and effectively. Every two years representatives of the North’s project management community gather for this conference. Over three days, 250 to 300 delegates from community governments, the construction and consulting industries, and other professionals from the private and public sector will come together to share their project management knowledge.

This year’s conference theme is “Helping Northerners Prepare for Tomorrow.” An impressive team of national and northern experts will share their experiences and best practices, from hands-on project-based advice on managing risk and construction tendering, to expert advice on adapting projects to climate change.

The range of topics and quality of presenters provides capacity building and professional development opportunities for design consultants, contractors and project management professionals from all sectors of the industry and all areas of the North.

Mr. Speaker, one of the most important opportunities that the conference offers participants is the ability to network and strengthen the North’s project management community. This focus on networking and capacity building makes the conference a great option for those in our communities who might be thinking about attending, and I would certainly encourage them to do so.

As in past years, Public Works and Services will be partnering with the NWT and Nunavut Construction Association who will be sponsoring the Northern Construction Trade Fair.

It allows consultants, suppliers and manufacturers to connect directly with the project management community. This networking opportunity strengthens the community and supports the expansion of highly skilled and professional sectors. The GNWT relies on these sectors to deliver the projects our residents need. They are our partners and I look forward to meeting with them next month at the conference.

Mr. Speaker, we face unique challenges when it comes to building in the North. We have to deal with a short building season and remote construction sites. Climate change has meant we’ve had to change our approach to planning, and building and taught us unique lessons. This conference will be an opportunity to recognize and share the expertise of our northern professionals and increase public and private sector capacity. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister's Statement 3-17(5): 2013 Project Management Conference
Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Item 3, Members’ statements. Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Northwest Territories Teachers’ Association 60th Anniversary
Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On October 17th the Northwest Territories

Teachers’ Association celebrated 60 years of service to northern educators. The NWTTA, as it is

commonly called, had its humble beginnings in 1963 when it was founded by 63 teachers who attended the first NWT Teachers’ Convention in Fort Smith. For six decades this association has served as the professional voice for teachers across the Northwest Territories.

To put the significance of this achievement into perspective, consider this: dedicated teachers in the NWT were advocating for a professional development of teachers for a full 14 years before the seat of government for the Northwest Territories moved from Ottawa to Yellowknife. This is a remarkable achievement by any standard.

Today the NWTTA continues the strong tradition of leading and serving northern educators through professional development, partnership and communication. The association represents over 800 members, including teachers, school administrators and educational assistants, delivering programs in 49 schools to more than 8,300 students with diverse educational needs. It represents teachers in the collective bargaining process for three different employers, participates with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment in the NWT Teacher Qualification Service program and promotes teacher excellence through initiatives such as the Thank You for Making a Difference Initiative, which has collected and delivered over 20,000 messages of thanks from our children to their teachers.

The NWTTA represents over 50 hardworking educators who make Hay River home and whose hard work makes our schools, Diamond Jenness Secondary, Harry Camsell, Princess Alexandra and Ecole Boreale, places that are safe and enriching environments for our children to learn. I want to take this opportunity to personally thank each and every one of these for their dedication to the growth and development of the children of Hay River.

I hope that all my colleagues in this Legislature will join me in congratulating Ms. Gayla Meredith, president of the NWTTA, and all teachers that make up the membership of this important association for the work that they do daily on behalf of all students across the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Northwest Territories Teachers’ Association 60th Anniversary
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Education Renewal Consultation And Leadership
Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of hundreds of concerned parents in my constituency, I’m delighted to see the government moving forward with the Education Renewal, but I have two tough-minded messages for the department that’s heading up the overhaul.

The first message is that parents want to be involved. The majority of NWT schools are in small communities and the Department of Education needs to be listening to parents in these places. Their hearts are broken when they see their children’s poor results.

Their grief is deep when they discover their child’s high school diploma is not adequate for entrance into university or college. Their frustration is beyond measure when they discover courses offered in small community high schools are not academically rigorous.

Their desire is to do everything in their power to maximize their young child’s readiness for kindergarten.

To be sure, it is commendable that the department consulted with numerous groups, including district education councils, Aboriginal governments and community organizations. That demonstrates a real openness to hearing what needs to be fixed and ideas for moving forward.

But more has to be done to reach out to parents for advice. Parents want to be treated as vital partners in the renewal effort.

The second message is that we need decisive leadership. It’s the only way to turn the ship around. We need to show true leadership in education renewal, make some real changes for real results.

It is a travesty when top students in our small communities aren’t passing the departmental exams.

The situation is abysmal when only 11 percent of Grade 9 students in small community schools meet the standard of excellence on the Alberta achievement test. This 11 percent figure compares to 77 percent of similarly aged students in Alberta.

The document tabled last week certainly contains valuable material, but some of the language is woolly and vague. We need to do more than support initiatives and provide opportunity and enhance programs and ensure better supports are in place.

Enough is enough. We need to fix the education system. I implore the Department of Education, Culture and Employment to get connected to parents in our small communities and show decisive leadership that will bring real and lasting results.

Education Renewal Consultation And Leadership
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Members’ Statements

November 5th, 2013

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like many of my colleagues today speaking on the

recently tabled report, Education Renewal and Innovation Framework: Directions for Change, it is abundantly clear that our education system is in need of a shakeup. Of course, with any initiative report of this magnitude, we are hoping that this truly serves the department needs for the next 10 years and that the report does not collect dust on a shelf.

Although I don’t want to overshadow some of our successes, it may appear our failure rates as leaders, educators and society pales in comparison to our students’ low test scores and literacy rates. Change starts with the right framework and is measured by the right investment. The recent Auditor General of Canada report reminds us of that. The cliché “you can’t measure what you can’t count” may be surprisingly more appropriate for a Wildlife Act debate but, unfortunately, equally holds true in education.

In my first couple of days in office almost two years ago, I stumbled over a statistic that was alarming, and it remains an issue echoed in this ERI Framework. I would like to draw your attention to page 11 of this framework document, “by Grade 4 the average NWT student has already missed half a year of school, or two full years by Grade 10.”

What this statistic is saying is that the most we could aspire for a large number of our NWT students is that they have no higher than a potential Grade 10 upon graduation. One can maybe now comprehend why our Grade 12 Alberta test scores are so low. You can’t be academically at Grade 12 levels if you miss two years of school.

To the question of truancy, which is clearly one of the most serious barriers to our education system and I’m glad it was mentioned in this framework; however, this is just one page dedicated to this issue and it clearly does not give the statistic justice.

Let me be blatantly clear: School attendance is not the problem; it’s the end result of other issues. We need to understand why a large majority of our students stay away from school before we can affect positive change. Regrettably, this framework fails to realize these opportunities or even provide meaningful solutions.

In order for the Education department to break the socio-economic divide between small community and urban students, we need to address this barrier immediately and get them to attend school daily. Clearly, this framework report points out a serious red herring in our education system and yet offers little in the way of potential initiatives to address this.

I will have questions later today for the Minister of Education.

School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our education system may be performing poorly, according to the recent reports. We are the ones who can do something with our education system. Clearly, education in the Northwest Territories is not up to par and we need to get it back on track. There is a big problem that requires bold solutions and decisive actions.

It is our children’s future that is at stake, and the stakes couldn’t be any higher. If we want our children to succeed, then we need to create a learning environment for them that encourages success. The standard wisdom holds that graduation rates are increasing because we are offering high school in smaller communities, but if our children are graduating and their performance is poor, what are we really achieving? If they get their diploma but can’t get a job or enter into college or university right after, what sort of success is that?

I have given this problem a great deal of thought. I have spoken to my constituents in the Sahtu, who, like all parents, simply want their children to have the very best opportunities that life can offer. I believe we need to challenge the conventional wisdom and reconsider the possibility of a regional high school in the Sahtu. If we look at some of today’s brightest northern leaders from the Sahtu, people like Stephen Kakfwi, Paul Andrew, Ethel Blondin-Andrew, George Cleary, Danny Gaudet, Sarah Baker, or Dora Duncan, and there are many others, one of the things they have in common is their acquired education. Today’s leaders are educated together in a learning environment where they can challenge one another to think, to be motivated, to inspire and to grow.

Obviously, I’m not suggesting in any way a return to the old residential school system, but I’m saying that with devolution, decentralization and resource development, companies are looking for educated professionals in the regions and we need to do everything we can to prepare our children to answer that call.

This includes encouraging them to attend a regional high school where we can focus our education dollars on a centre of excellence, with a focus on math and science with many other programs aimed at getting our children ready for post-secondary learning or in a trades institution.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Member’s statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

As we hear more from the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment about this summer’s concentration on education

reform, I hope we hear bold and creative solutions aimed to drastically improve the education in the Northwest Territories. As we consider this, I challenge all Members of this House to think outside the box and to legislate seriously to turn this situation around and get education moving in the right direction. It’s what you do with education that counts, Mr. Speaker.

Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Investment In Early Childhood Development Programs
Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Education Renewal and Innovation Initiative is a huge undertaking and an admirable action on the part of the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. I appreciate the work that they have undertaken, that the ERI team at the department is doing. The work and the resulting renewal are necessary. There are changing trends in education and we see poor results from our current approach to NWT education, particularly in the Alberta achievement test scores and statistics around graduation rates for our students.

The Minister tabled the Education Renewal Initiative document last week, and good as it is, I have a number of concerns with the document as it has been presented. The framework has nine commitments, and I will focus on number four on my limited time today.

Commitment number four says, “ensure that learners experience supported and personalized quality education.”

It’s well documented, the science proves that investment in early childhood development – that would be the early childhood programming – reaps rewards later on. Early results from the Early Development Instrument, which is a test of kindergarten children for school readiness, shows that on average, NWT children are developmentally delayed compared to others in Canada. Indeed, the framework document says, “Many Kindergarten students across the territory exhibit poor learning readiness and are significantly behind in their development.”

It is imperative that we address this issue and the framework sets out some ways to do it. The Minister has referenced several times in the last few weeks that junior kindergarten will possibly be implemented in the NWT education system. The framework suggests it as a possible initiative, initiative number 4.3.

There is no doubt that our kids need to be ready for school in order to succeed, but to start programs at age four or five in junior kindergarten or kindergarten is much too late. We need to establish

early childhood development programs for kids aged zero to three and then junior kindergarten won’t be needed. We have full-day kindergarten now. I’m not suggesting we change that, but I am saying do not institute junior kindergarten.

Take the considerable dollars required for junior kindergarten and use it to develop the child earlier. If the government is looking to provide daycare in our communities, then call it that, don’t hide behind the junior kindergarten name.

Mr. Speaker, I see unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Investment In Early Childhood Development Programs
Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Quality early childhood programs with trained early childhood educators available to children from birth will guarantee the development of the child that is now missing in many of our NWT pre-schoolers. If done right, it will benefit both children and families. If the Education department is serious about supporting student success, then ECE must work with Health and Social Services and re-profile the money earmarked for junior kindergarten to early childhood development. Thank you.

Investment In Early Childhood Development Programs
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Greater Emphasis On Early Childhood Development
Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I began reviewing the Education Renewal Initiative, anticipating a statement detailing its failures. Wrong. In fact, I was impressed and offer my compliments to the people who have worked so hard to develop it and bring it forward.

The plan draws on research which reveals the need to teach, or a competency-based model that works better with how a child’s brain actually functions, with more integration of learning across subjects. Self-worth is recognized as essential for success in school for everyone.

More than knowledge and skills, learning involves the integration of thinking skills, creative abilities, attitudes, motivations and values. With the teachers’ guidance, this can be well-served using today’s access to information and through connections and relationships.

The document also lays plain our failure on early childhood development and, it breaks my heart to say this, gives shocking statistics like 35 to 60 percent of our five-year-olds in small communities entering school are developmentally delayed.

Authors state the need to put supports in place, even before children begin school, is evident, and go on to recognize the critical role of parents, families and communities. But here’s the thing, the

plan fails to acknowledge that without successful child development, much of the ERI is destined to fail. In a sense, given our current failure with ECD, it is five years too early.

We know that early childhood development success must be realized before we can expect gains sought through education renewal. I support the need for education renewal based on the reasons referenced above, but without healthy children entering schools, the conclusions of Aboriginal Student Achievement, quality of small community education and culturally based education can be improved through the ERI are not warranted.

Given that up to 60 percent of new students are underprepared for learning, how can we wonder why grad rates are stuck at 50 percent, the students are graduating without Grade 12 proficiency and so on? How can we expect success at programs like Aboriginal Student Achievement when the foundation for such accomplishment – healthy early childhood development – remains unaddressed?

For now I support going forward with the ERI, using existing resources.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Mahsi.

---Unanimous consent granted

Greater Emphasis On Early Childhood Development
Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

For now I support going forward with the ERI, using existing resources. In order to achieve any success, an absolute imperative is to steadily and intelligently build our early childhood development initiative to a seven to 10 million dollar program annually. Assuming we can make measurable ECD progress in five years, then and only then would be the time, based on sound evaluation of progress, to consider supplementing resources to the ERI.

Let’s get it right from the very start. Mahsi.

Greater Emphasis On Early Childhood Development
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Concrete Actions To Improve Student Achievement
Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I came into this Legislative Assembly, I had a strong background in health and social services and working with youth. Being new to the Assembly and being privy to all the information that Regular Members receive, statistics on where government is, what really grabbed my attention was where our education system is. Although I did have a strong interest in education, all the information that I get as a Regular MLA tells me that the education system is not doing what it’s supposed to be for residents of the Northwest Territories.

Right from the start, from kindergarten, we’re already failing our people of the Northwest Territories, with having up to 60 percent, as my colleague Mr. Bromley stated, of youth entering the kindergarten system developmentally delayed in the small communities. Six out of 10 kids going into kindergarten are not ready, and not ready to handle school at a very young age. Then you go through to Grade 12 where four out of 10 Aboriginal students graduate. Four out of 10. Yet we talked about getting our Aboriginal people into the workforce when they’re not ready.

Right from the start we’re failing them. When they do graduate, they’re not academically ready and the education they have is not sufficient for them to succeed in post-secondary, where often you see some failures or extra years of studies.

Then we go on to adulthood where we have low literacy rates within the NWT and that’s stated in the document. Right from the start, we’re putting our children and youth at risk and we continue this practice throughout their educational lives as we continue to practice social passing. We continue passing our youth and students that are not ready for a higher academic of learning and yet we say here and continue to do it year after year after year.

In the document, it says for decades – decades – Aboriginal leaders across the NWT have been saying we need something that’s concrete that’s going to affect the education of our students and our children. This is Aboriginal leaders. It’s been decades. It’s about time that this government starts to listen. We do have a tabled document, but we must ensure, as Members have said, that it doesn’t get shelved like past documents and that we have to take the first steps and make sure we implement everything that’s in this document, starting with early childhood development and getting them ready for kindergarten. Thank you.

Concrete Actions To Improve Student Achievement
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to start off today’s Member’s statement by referencing a document that’s been before the House. It was the NWT Standing Committee on Social Programs did a review of the Child and Family Services Act and it was authored by Cindy Blackstock – she was a PhD – back in April of 2010. The reference of her document was called I Want to Grow Up in My Community and it’s a review.

The good work done in that report, I feel it’s necessary to highlight the very first line because I think that’s what really becomes the most shocking and hopefully powerful, and it will resonate through

this statement. It says: “Aboriginal children account for 95 percent of children in child welfare care in the Northwest Territories, while representing only 50 percent of the population in this territory.”

Those factors, of course, are driven by neglect, poverty, housing, substance abuse, domestic violence and many, many other issues. If there’s one thing I certainly got immediately by reading that first sentence, I was shocked and dismayed and I thought, in what type of world is this normal. This can’t be normal here, and if it is normal here, what are we doing about it.

I’ve often been told about social workers who come to the Northwest Territories and I’ve often even heard about social workers employed in the Department of Health and the high turnover. The question is: Are we hiring the right types of social workers? Are they culturally shocked? Are they unfamiliar with the territory? Are they unfamiliar with the residential school legacy, the people, the small communities, the language?

Many social workers will travel up here on the circuit of experience, thinking let’s come to the promised land of challenge. When I get my bag of opportunities so full with tools and experiences, I can then challenge and go get a better job somewhere else.

The question I have for today more is built around training. I’m not going to blame this Department of Health and Social Services for what may not necessarily be their fault; on this one, that is. I’ll say that maybe training the right people has not been our true fight. Where has our crusade been to challenge this mountain? I view this as sometimes it’s have we asked ourselves the tough questions, are we providing the training access that we need. Aurora College provides a diploma program, but is that enough?

When I go back to the reference of 95 percent of the children in the Northwest Territories under custody are Aboriginal, I’m asking: Are we training the right people? Are we training Northerners? Are we training Aboriginal people? Are we training the people in the communities to help their own folks? I assert to you, I’m not sure we are and I think the statistics speak for themselves.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. This is actually the first time in this term, I think, I’ve asked for more time because I feel it’s such an important topic to ensure my statement fully gets out.

I ask ourselves: Is the diploma program enough? I will tell you the diploma program itself is great, but it’s not enough. Have we done all that we can? I don’t believe we are doing all we can. I believe if

our government is serious about training social workers who are in touch with the people, who are in touch with the culture, who are in touch with the communities, we should be asking ourselves: Why aren’t we leaning towards a Bachelor of Social Work Program?

As such, later today I will have questions for the Minister who is in charge of Aurora College, about asking what it will take to get this program appropriately done just like we did for the teachers and just like the nurses. Let’s do it. I believe we can. Thank you.

Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Bromley.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Shane Clark. I can’t really see if he’s still up there, but Shane is the proud father, I know, of a couple of our Pages here, twins Sophie and Grace Clark. Welcome to the House.

I’d like to also, at this time, express appreciation to our Pages once again for all the service they’ve provided during this very busy session. Our long-suffering Pages in particular from Weledeh, besides Sophie and Grace we’ve also had Shiri MacPherson, who is the daughter of our Law Clerk, Sheila MacPherson. We’ve also had Niva Stephenson and Jacob Schubert. Again, thank you very much. And that could be Hannah Schauerte up there, as well, and I’d like to recognize her. It was a pleasure to be able to speak to her today.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Ms. Bisaro.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize some Pages. I didn’t get an opportunity yesterday to recognize Anne Thomas. I don’t think she’s working here today, but there are a number of Pages from Frame Lake. Anne is one of them. Today I believe we have working here for us Jeff Harbin and Aaisha Hashi, and I’d like to compliment them on the work that they’ve been doing for us for the last, what, three weeks, I guess.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to also recognize two Pages from Hay River that have been helping us out in the Legislative Assembly this week: Hannah Courtoreille and Tori Blake. I’d like to thank them for good work.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Also, I’d like to welcome my first cousin, Mr. Cameron Wolki-Jacobson, sitting as a Page, from Inuvik. Welcome, Cameron, and thank you for all the hard work that you’re doing.

I’d like to welcome here a good friend of mine, Mr. Jai Zachary from Summerland, B.C. He’s visiting us here for a few days in Yellowknife. Welcome to the House, Jai.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to follow up on my Member’s statement earlier today with questions to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment specifically related to the Education Renewal Initiative. I’d like to focus on the latest research on how our children are doing. We have been testing young children approaching school age with a test called the Early Development Indicator. Could the Minister confirm that the latest data from the Early Development Indicator work is showing that 35 to 60 percent of children approaching school age in our smaller communities have development delays that may cause a reduced capacity to learn?

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Those are some of the assessments that we have conducted throughout the Northwest Territories, working very closely with Alberta Education. As part of the process, of course, we need to find out where the students are at. There are some challenges, as the Member alluded to. Due to that reason, we have developed two of the biggest files, the Early Childhood Development Framework, along with the action plan being developed, and also the Education Renewal Initiative and Innovation Framework and action plan to follow, which involves those DEAs, NWTTA and other parties from the Northwest Territories, so we can make this an effective mechanism for early learning, and then also for the students across the Northwest Territories.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Sad news indeed. I know we want to work on those statistics and improve them. The latest research shows that development of the brain and its neural pathways are largely established by age three.

How does this scientific evidence compare with the Minister of Education’s understanding of how a child’s mind develops and how does he think this evidence should change the way we educate our children or assist them in development? Mahsi.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

We have conducted various research across our great country of Canada, even outside, internationally. What the

Member is referring to is some of the research that he would have on his file, if he can share that with us as well. We have all these different research that we conducted through our engagement with the committees as well. We have to try and use the best practices that are out there available to us instead of reinventing the wheel or the challenges that we are faced with today. In my view, we have all those documentation, the data, the stats. Now we need to move forward and develop an action plan towards that. That’s what we’re focusing on with our partners across the Northwest Territories. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the data are crystal clear. The research is crystal clear. Brain development primarily takes place by age three and development of the neuro pathways takes place by age three, so the focus needs to be in the ages zero to three. Research is also showing that starting kindergarten at age four with junior kindergarten does not provide net benefits to learning over normal kindergarten programs, as my colleague Ms. Bisaro has outlined.

Given this evidence, does the Minister agree that, because the most important brain development occurs from age zero to three, that establishing junior kindergarten for four-year-olds is not the best investment to improve the mental development of our young children? Mahsi.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, again, there are other research. We also have research from different jurisdictions as well. With some of the research, whether it be internationally or nationally, one we have specifically is on a UK study, Effective Provision of Pre-school Education, a large long-term study. A year more of early childhood education makes a big difference to children. These are just some of the areas that we continue to focus as part of Education, Culture and Employment. It is not only my department, I’m working very closely… We even partner with the Department of Health and Social Services because we want this to be an effective mechanism that we can deal with early learning as well. Ages zero to three, of course, would have to fall under Health and Social Services, so we are partners in that.

We are very serious about these challenges that we’re faced with and we are developing an action plan to deal with those matters. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ECE is the lead on our early childhood development. I’m pleased to see the progressive approach of the Education Renewal Initiative in addressing new ways of learning in today’s world. However, with so many children entering the system with a reduced capacity to learn, it is clear that we must have

success with early, zero to three, childhood development first.

Does the Minister agree with this analysis and will he commit to making a vigorous NWT-wide Early Childhood Development Program the number one priority of this initiative? Mahsi.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the Early Childhood Development Framework will be capturing that. It is very serious to our department and with the Health and Social Services, so we will continue to push that forward in this House and in the Northwest Territories across the board. Mahsi.

Question 12-17(5): Early Development Instruments Results
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. When we’re talking about devolution, we’re talking about resources, we’re talking about expanding our Northwest Territories, having our own power, but I think the most important resource is, of course, our people and our children and them learning as well. We all know, and it has been shown, that student performance in small community schools has been nothing short of appalling.

Can the Minister provide assurance that this education renewal will address these very specific shortcomings and what will they be? Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Abernethy. Sorry, Mr. Menicoche. It sounded like a question for Mr. Abernethy. The honourable Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I will certainly take that question. The Members referred to how parental involvement can happen along with Educational Renewal and Innovation Initiative. Those are just some of the areas that it’s captured, part of the recommendations that will be coming forward and action plan. Through engagement with the Members and also the communities, regional groups, organizations, it is through their voice and input that they want us to improve the overall education system. So that’s what we are planning to do. In February during the session, I will table a document that highlights an action plan that clearly captures what the Member is referring to, and roll out the implementation. I am very much looking forward to it. We will be rolling out the program. Mahsi.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Straight from the record, as health and social services. The questions were

directed to the Minister of Education. Just further to rolling out the plan, I will ask the Minister how he will be rolling out the plan in regions and communities. In my constituency we have six small communities and I’d like to ask the Minister, is part of the plan to go to each of those small communities and roll out this plan. I think it’s very important for them to hear from the students, hear from the parents and hear from the teachers that are on the front lines in the small communities. Thank you very much.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

It’s very important that we involve the communities, the parents, the educators and the leaders of the communities. During the engagement process with the Aboriginal Student Achievement at the initial stage, that’s when we have the public forum in all regions, similar to what we have conducted with the education renewal process, engaging the parents and the educators. Once we start rolling out the program in six of the communities the Member is referring to, and other communities, as well, we must engage those parents. We must engage educators and the leadership, so we have to work through the DEAs and DECs. All those partners are involved and engaging the communities. That is the overall plan. I have to make sure that it’s happening, as Minister responsible for Education. We need to reach out to those individuals. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

I’m glad that the Minister agrees with me that it certainly is a must. I’d like to know when he rolls it out, I know they already have a plan and a strategy in place, but should there be some unique ideas out there, are the department and the Minister willing to amend their plan. I heard one parent in my constituency talking about what students are being taught is not what they’re expected to learn, which means that they are failing the Alberta achievement exams because what they are being taught is not the standard.

How will the communities, how will the parents, how will the teachers effect change as this rolls out, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

I would love to hear from the communities, ideas and suggestions on how we can improve our overall education system. We are currently at the framework stages and are engaging the stakeholders to develop an action plan. That will be tabled in this House in the February/March session. Even after that, it is a working document. We are always making change to our policies. We are always making change to our programming. I will be open to those ideas that can benefit the North. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. While I know it’s probably impossible for

the Minister to be in each of our 33 communities, can he commit to at least participating in the roll-out at least once in each region or at least make as many appearances as possible? Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

With the overall engagement of the Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative, I’ve been to every region, participating in two or three-day sessions. Particularly this one is very important to me and also working with Health and Social Services. We will be going to those communities and engaging those participants and sharing their ideas and suggestions, so we will make every effort to be in attendance at those forums. We are committed as a department. Mahsi.

Question 13-17(5): Education Renewal In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Colleagues, before we move on today, I’d like to welcome our Information and Privacy Commissioner Elaine Keenan Bengts to the House.

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Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have some questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment on the Education Renewal Initiative. For some reason, as I’ve raised in this House many times before, it seems it’s our educators on the front line who are discouraged from expressing their opinion on a lot of things, and for what reason, I do not know because I would say they are in the best position to help us put together the best policies and practices to educate our children. I’d like to, for the record, ask the Minister if there was extensive consultation directly with educators for this Education Renewal Initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I don’t like the word consultation; I like the word engaging. We have engaged with our stakeholders and they are part of the educators, the principals, the program coordinators. The Member is referring to front-line workers. I totally agree with her that we need to get ideas from those individuals. If we have missed out on those individuals and their input, I would like to hear from them either through my office, through my department, through DEAs, DECS, various partners that we have in the field. We’d love to hear from them. So, Mr. Speaker, if we have missed out on those certain individuals, by all means, I am open to those suggestions as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

As a government, we come up with new initiatives from time to time; maybe all the time, I’m not sure. The Minister has made mention of the Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative and now this, with the Education Renewal Initiative. We have heard some pretty dire statistics on the preparedness of students and even ongoing statistics. I would like to suggest to you that those statistics are not prevalent in all communities, in all schools and in all regions. I would say those statistics do exist, but I would say there are schools where there is a lot of success.

I just opened the inside page of the Hub today, and the Parent Action Committee has taken out a full-page ad to illustrate the achievement of the high school students in Hay River. Mr. Bouchard and I had the opportunity to attend the end-of-session assembly at one of the other grade schools in Hay River. The kids that were going up there that we were giving out medals and awards to for achievement in their academics and sports and everything else, was just amazing. The results of these tests in Hay River, I must say – and I’m not trying to put anybody else down or trying to brag here – but the results of these achievement tests in Hay River have just been skyrocketing. It’s just amazing.

This initiative, is this going to make everybody do things differently or could it be targeted to those areas where most needed? Thank you.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

The Member is correct; there are success stories in other regions as well. The South Slave’s literacy coach has been very successful to date. The Phoenix School is another one that’s been highlighted on numerous occasions, as well as Beaufort-Delta e-learning. There are all of these success stories. Of course, we are integrating into education renewal as well.

Of course, we’ve listened to the parents and educators and they’ve told us to focus on those individual communities that are struggling. That’s what we are doing right now, based on their input, their feedback. So, what the Member is referring to, this is our approach and we will continue to move that forward. Mahsi.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you. I’m very happy to hear the Minister say this will not be a broad-sweep approach, because sometimes when the Department of Education comes out with new initiatives, they expect all teachers to take some new approach and best practices and basically have to revamp the way that they are educating the students in their classrooms and sometimes it’s more disruptive than helpful, to tell you the truth. At least from what I hear from them.

If we’re not going to take the broad-brush approach to the implementation of this Education Renewal Initiative, I would like to ask the Minister by what

means are they going to establish the areas that need to be targeted to bring all regions and all schools up to a standard that’s acceptable. Thank you.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. Focusing on the communities and also the regions, again, we have to work closely with the district education authorities and the councils. They have given us positive feedback on the success stories, as the Member is referring to, and focusing on the small communities. One of the pillars is focusing on small communities, staff development and student assistance. As we roll out the action plan, it will be captured, focusing in certain areas that require attention.

The Member is asking about the broad sweep and the particular focus. Those are discussions that we’ve had throughout our engagement. I’m looking forward to delivering this action plan in this House and rolling out the program in the communities. Mahsi.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Your final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Included in this rollout, will there be a defined reporting, monitoring, so that we can see what this new initiative is accomplishing? We need to measure the outcomes of these things that we roll out and that we initiate. So I’d like to ask the Minister, will that be clearly included in this initiative so that we can be reported back to on how it is affecting the statistics. Thank you.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. Yes, the monitoring, evaluating and also the measurement of how the program will be running as far as the implementation and rolling out the program. So we will be keeping standing committee up to speed and engaging them as we roll out the program, short-term and long-term. So, yes, I agree with the Member that we will be monitoring this whole evaluation. Mahsi.

Question 14-17(5): Role Of Educators In Developing Education Renewal Framework
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today will be for the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. In 1989 the Power Corporation moved its head office to Hay River. We’re awfully proud of that facility in Hay River.

My question is that the positions in the Hay River headquarters office have been floating slowly over to Yellowknife and other locations. I know there are currently 70 positions in Hay River, but I’m wondering if the Minister can answer how many positions are currently located in Yellowknife.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, Mr. Miltenberger.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Roughly about 45, I believe. Thank you.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

I am concerned with that large a number. I think the number is somewhere between 45 and 50 and I’m wondering why there are so many positions such as engineers, safety specialists that are currently in Yellowknife when Hay River is the headquarters for the NWT Power Corporation.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The majority of those positions are tied specifically to the operation of the Snare system and, of course, the Jackfish plant and Bluefish, as well, in the larger service area that we do have. Thank you.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you. With decentralization as a priority for this government, will the Minister commit to reviewing these positions and making sure that none of those positions currently could be located in Hay River?

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you. I have a note here from the president and one of his comments is they are in fact struggling to fit everyone in on the second floor of the Hay River head office building where engineering is located. But, yes, we will commit to make sure that all the positions in Yellowknife are required and, of course, being from Fort Smith where we have almost no NTPC presence…

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Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I can feel the love.

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We will endeavour to make sure that all the positions are appropriately located. Thank you.

Question 15-17(5): Location Of Power Corporation Personnel
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve had a lot of discussion today on the Education Renewal document that was tabled in the House last week. However, I’m going to ask my questions and rank them in the way that we talk about anti-poverty and we talk about mental health and addictions. I’ve got questions today for the Minister of Health and Social Services and that’s relating to foster parenting in the Northwest Territories.

I’d like to ask the Minister what is our current situation with foster parenting in the communities, in

the small communities and the regional centres where we tend to sometimes have our highest incident rates of either mental health and addictions or some of our other poverty statistics. What is our current status of the foster parenting program in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Minister of Health, Mr. Abernethy.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That’s a fairly broad question. I could spend a significant amount of time talking about it. Foster families are an important resource and essential to the safety and well-being of children throughout the Northwest Territories who need that type of support. As the Member knows, and I think other Members know, our first priority is always to provide children with a foster home with extended family or friends where possible, but that doesn’t always work out and we do have to use unrelated foster families.

As of September 1, 2013, there were 203 youth or children in foster care in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. I guess I could have been a little bit more specific. I guess what I was looking for is as a department do we have enough foster parent families for the amount of children that are being apprehended or that need foster care?

Does this government have enough foster parent families as we talk about this situation right now? Thank you.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you. We always need more foster parents. We do work with the NWT Foster Family Coalition and provide them with some money so that they can continue to go out and advertise and encourage people to become foster parents. I think in 2013-14 we provided them with $172,000 to do that work to go out and recruit more. Short answer, we always could use some more loving, caring, dedicated, committed foster parents to support our youth. Thank you.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you. I do agree with the Minister that we do have a lot of caring families out there and I appreciate the hard work that they do, as well as the staff that continue to go out and recruit. The last time I left Yellowknife I saw a booth that was set up in the Yellowknife Airport looking for foster parents.

Does the Minister have a number of apprehended youth in the NWT right now looking for foster parenting placements, and if there’s no placement for them, what are the services that are provided to children that are being apprehended? Where do these children go? Thank you.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you. As of September 1, 2013, there were 593 children receiving services under the Child and Family

Services Act. Three hundred and two of these were in their parental homes, 20 have a provisional foster, 46 are in extended family foster, 137 are with regular foster parents, nine are in northern treatment, 41 are in southern treatment, 50 are in group homes, 13 are receiving support and living in room and board, and six are in adoptive homes. Thank you.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister provides some very interesting statistics, knowing there is a need for foster parenting. He mentioned group homes. I was wondering how many group homes do we currently have in the Northwest Territories.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I’ve been in this job for almost a week now and I’ve had a significant number of briefings, and that number is a number that I haven’t been briefed on yet. I think I know but I’d rather not throw out a number and be incorrect, so I will commit to getting the Member that information.

Question 16-17(5): Foster Families For Children And Youth
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today in my Member’s statement, I referred to a passage in the recently tabled Education Renewal and Innovation Framework, and it stated: “by Grade 4 the average NWT student has already missed half a year of school, or two full years by Grade 10.”

Truancy or attendance concerns are not only unique to the NWT but are a critical barrier to our students’ success and their achievement. My questions today are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Admittedly, upon review of the ECE framework, it only dedicates one page of this truancy concern in its framework for change document, with little to offer in terms of potential initiatives to address this barrier. Can the Minister of Education indicate as to why so little attention to truancy?

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The truancy is obviously an important area for education renewal. The issue of attendance is being actively discussed at the national stage and also internationally. One of the reasons, I guess, for education change is it is happening everywhere. Alberta is changing their whole education system.

The Member is correct that some of the students are missing up to one day a week of school, which

translates into almost two years. We’ve had discussion with that Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative as well. This is not acceptable and it compromises the students’ success in the future. Yes, it may be one page, but it’s a start, and we will be building on that. Truancy and attendance and all those areas are key factors in our discussion to deal with these students.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I’m looking forward to hearing more about that in due course. Can the Minister indicate what role are parents, educators, administrators and our elected community leadership playing within this new framework to address poor attendance in our schools?

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

The parents and also other stakeholders are actively engaged. The parents, we’ve been told through our engagement, that the parental involvement is a must. Having release of this document in this House and also part of our media release was that we have partners there as well through DEAs and DECs. The NWTTA was part of that. TCSA as the chair was represented at that level.

We want to engage almost everybody across the Northwest Territories because it will have an impact not only the schools, but at home, with the grandparents, the parents. We have to encourage those students that they have to be engaged in the school activities as well. It’s everybody’s role to be part, so we will be reaching out to those individuals.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I’m encouraged that the Minister is encouraged. Elders play an integral part in teaching us many life skills, or at least they should be. These role models serve as mentors for our youth and could assist with attendance issues.

What is the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment doing to facilitate more elders in our schools?

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

We have rolled out the Elders in Schools Program starting this September, and it’s based on the Members voicing their concerns and ideas in this House. We have developed an action towards that. It is a small start. We want to focus on the regions and on to all communities, the schools. We want to cover 49 schools eventually, and we will get there. Elders play a pivotal and very important role. I fully support that, as well, and we have started that this September. We want to increase that next year as well.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Oral Questions

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One solution to achieve better school attendance in remote regions found in many other countries is the creation of a school calendar and daily timetable that is negotiated with the community and school to achieve a better fit for the students. Can the

Minister indicate, have such school calendar models been researched and could we expect to see such models piloted in our NWT schools?

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Yes, school calendar and scheduling has been part of some of the schools. Now we have to coordinate with the DEAs and DECs, because some of the schools, as the Member alluded to, there are success stories and some of the students are moving on to post-secondary and coming back and working for the Northwest Territories. There are success stories. Based on that, the school calendars and the scheduling, we have to take those into consideration, as well, on the education renewal and working with the DEAs and DECs as well as our true partners.

Question 17-17(5): School Attendance And Truancy Impacts
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister’s new renewal of the education system in the Northwest Territories is refreshing. It talks about some of the things that we need to do, and as I read the report the facts stare right in my face and the problem is really huge, and the government is responding to these problems. I want to ask the Minister, with his discussion with Mr. Menicoche, in the short-term, has the Minister and his department considered offering Grade 12 in our high schools, because the quality of our diplomas are not as high as we think they are.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Part of the process, of course, is re-evaluating the overall education system, the programming that we’re delivering into our schools. Alberta, of course, is going through some changes as well. We follow their curriculum, their departmental exams. If there are changes at that level, we have to monitor that, take that into consideration and follow through with our education system.

Yes, there will be some changes that will reflect on our northern perspective, and we want to have a curriculum that is comparable, on par, at a Canadian level. That is our goal and that is our objective.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I wanted to say Grade 13. I said Grade 12, but I wanted to say Grade 13. That will give the students the added time of one year to catch up so they can either go right to work or go to a college or post-secondary education. Give them that transition for them to do a Grade 13. Add that as a course for these students who are graduating from Grade 12 and we know that the diploma

doesn’t quite get them into a post-secondary or college or a university program.

Can the Minister look at a short-term solution to have that offered in our small communities as a Grade 13 education schooling in our small communities or in the North?

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

As I stated earlier, we’re open to ideas and suggestions, but this is the first time I’ve heard about Grade 13 through the engagement that we’ve had. It hasn’t been brought up but it’s been brought up now, so we can have that part of our discussion. I know that Ontario had Grade 13 before, and they got away from that, so we have to find out the pros and cons at that level, as well, but surely we can take those into consideration as we move forward. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I’m looking at what can we do for our students who are graduating with a Grade 12 diploma. Sometimes a diploma is not as strong as we want it to be. I’m looking at ways we can build self-esteem and self-confidence for these Grade 12 graduates. Having a Grade 13 in our high schools would give them that confidence, so when they apply for college in Fort Smith or any other college in the Northwest Territories or a post-university institution down south, it would make them feel that, yes, I do have an incredible diploma. If we have a Grade 13 program in our schools, that would fit them into…other than just to send them out and apply for Aurora College upgrading programs or an access program. This would be more successful.

I ask the Minister again, in his search for solutions and better education in the North, is this something that he would investigate with his department and colleagues and say, can we do this?

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, certainly that will be part of the option that we can consider as we discuss part of the action plan and moving forward. Again, reiterating that this is the first I heard on the Grade 13. We haven’t heard that before. It will be new to the Northwest Territories. By all means, we can definitely be discussing that. Mahsi.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know our students can do it. Last year at the Colville Lake high school, there were three graduates and they did it through the new technology. I’m looking at these small communities and I’m asking that this Grade 13 concept be seen in the minds of the people in the Northwest Territories and see if it has some value in offering this type of program.

Would the Minister be able to report back to the Assembly on this concept by the end of this year

and say, yes, it has value? Would he be able to do that?

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, we will be conducting research and see what we come up with and I will be sharing that with the standing committee. Mahsi.

Question 18-17(5): Regional High Schools As Centres Of Excellence
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are also addressed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. I want to follow up on my statement and discuss a proposed action within that Education Renewal and Innovation document. I talked to it in my statement that it seems that the department and the Minister are suggesting and fairly firm on going forward with junior kindergarten. The document that we have that was tabled talks about poor learning readiness. I’d like to reiterate my feeling in my statement that we don’t get learning readiness if we start at age four; we get it if we start at age zero.

I’d like to ask the Minister how the decision to go forward with junior kindergarten was reached. He referenced an article from the United Kingdom which says that it’s wonderful. I’ve seen several articles in the last month or so which indicate that junior kindergarten and kindergarten are not all that great. They are good for two years, but beyond that not.

How did the department and the Minister reach the decision that junior kindergarten was the way to go and where we should spend our money? Thank you.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. We talked about junior kindergarten along with other initiatives that we want to start working towards as part of our Early Childhood Development Framework and rolling out the action plan towards that. Part of that discussion is thinking about junior kindergarten. From what we’ve heard, we’ve heard over and over that we have to start from an early age.

There have been several reports. The Member and other Members, as well, reported on various research. One of the reports, of course, is from Ontario, that has very encouraging results, with a 7 percent increase in the number of children who are ready for Grade 1 learning as measured by Early Development Instruments. Those are just some of the areas, and it’s very important to recognize that kindergarten is also an option for the NWT; it’s not mandatory. Those are just some of the things we

are considering as part of our approach on these initiatives. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. At the risk of being contrary, I would like to say to the Minister that there is also an article that talks about Ontario’s kindergarten and that any benefits from junior kindergarten and kindergarten are lost by grade 3 or 4 and everybody is back to being on the same level, so I don’t think junior kindergarten is the panacea he’s suggesting.

We have a couple of junior kindergarten pilots right now. From what I understand, at least one of them, and I suspect all of them, are in a classroom combined with kindergarten, so you have junior kindergarten students in the same classroom as kindergarten students. From what I hear, that’s not working very well at all.

I would like to know from the Minister, if we go forward with junior kindergarten, what is the plan of the department to house kindergarten and junior kindergarten in our schools. Will they be in the same room or will they have their own classrooms? Thank you.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I will just again reiterate some of the findings. Long-term studies found that academic gains of entry to school will shorten a very few years at the beginning, but pay out significantly later in adolescence and adulthood. Those are just some of the school completion learning having an effective lifestyle.

When it comes to a proposed junior kindergarten, we have to work with the DEAs and DECs as well. We are working closely, of course, with Health and Social Services, as well, because it will have very positive ripple effects into our communities. These are just the preliminary findings that we’ve had and the action plan pertaining to that. We will be working very closely with all of the stakeholders that are at hand. Mahsi.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. The Minister speaks to research that talks about junior kindergarten and kindergarten and the benefits of that, and has been pointed out by Mr. Bromley many times and myself a number of times, the science also, and the research particularly, supports the larger gains that are made when we provide the early childhood programs for zero to three.

If we do implement junior kindergarten, it’s going to be a very costly venture. I have no idea what the estimate of the amount of money that’s going to be required, but if we put junior kindergarten into every one of our 49 schools – I think it’s 49 we have – that’s going to be a lot of money.

I’d like to ask the Minister how he expects that junior kindergarten will be funded. Thank you.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the proposed junior kindergarten obviously is an investment into our schools, into our children. Obviously, we have to find funds to offset the costs. We are exploring those areas and we need to move forward on this. Now we have a framework that’s been tabled in this House and an action plan is part of that moving forward. The junior kindergarten has been proposed. I believe it will benefit the children, the schools and the communities, the regions, the whole Northwest Territories, comparable to other junior kindergartens in Ontario and other places. We want to be on par with other jurisdictions as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Speaker. I agree with the Minister that anything we do for our children is an investment, but I believe again that he is misplaced in putting the investment in junior kindergarten as opposed to investing in our children from birth to three years of age.

Knowing that the research says that the science proves that the earlier we invest, the better the results later on, I would like to ask the Minister if he would consider, in the development of this action plan, putting off implementing junior kindergarten for at least five years until we can see the effects of early childhood development programs on our kids from birth to zero or four. Thank you.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the proposed junior kindergarten has been highlighted. We did share with the standing committee, as well, what the plan is. From what we’ve heard from the general public, our engagement has told us that we have start from an early age, as well, so those individuals will be prepared when they enter K-12. So, we need to roll out the program. Part of the action plan will cover that. So, I will be informing the standing committee on the progress at that level. Mahsi.

Question 19-17(5): Investment In Early Childhood Development
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Member for Yellowknife Center, Mr. Hawkins.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today, I talked about social workers and the need for social work training and the appropriate education that could rightly fit in at Aurora College.

As we all know, you can parachute somebody into the North but that doesn’t necessarily truly make them a Northerner. It’s almost something that has to be born and bred into your DNA. I’d like to ask the Minister of Education a particular question

about the department’s point of view when it comes to Northerners.

Does the department feel that trained, northern graduates who are Northerners have a longer-term investment into the future of the North? As such, do you think that Northerners represent the culture and language of communities better here in the North than southern transplants? Thank you.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Indeed, the northern graduates are very beneficial to the Northwest Territories, to our communities and to our regions. So we continue to push forward the delivery of certification, diplomas, degree programs and even into master’s programs nowadays in our Aurora College, the three campuses that we have. We are starting to build on our strength with delivering various programs into communities; we’ll continue to push that forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

We know, without any doubt, that the Minister is a strong advocate for language, culture and small communities. As the Minister and from the department’s point of view, does the Minister believe that small communities and, more specifically, First Nations families and Northerners, would they be more receptive of social workers trained here in the Northwest Territories that are both culturally and, in a language context, familiar with this environment, versus southern-trained social workers who take these jobs and are trained elsewhere outside the North? Thank you.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

The Social Work Program has been very successful to date in the Northwest Territories. We had some previous graduates, 24 grads in the last five years. So the numbers may not be as high, but those are just some of the key areas, the key findings, that we must invest into the students and into the programming. We also have partnerships with the University of Regina to continue with the degree programs, the master’s programs. There have been talks about having potentially a bachelor studies in social work. That is some of the exploration that we are conducting with the college, the three campuses, along with potential partners from southern jurisdictions. We are exploring those areas. Mahsi.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I’m glad the Minister brought up 24 grads in the last five years. If anyone’s math is as good as mine, you’ll realize that’s less than five a year, on average, that graduate from the program. Statistics speak for themselves. As I understand it, far more don’t graduate than enter the program. Maybe the Minister can enlighten this House on the statistics. As I’m aware of it, we can have 30 people who enter the program in one

intake year, but only five come out of the program. To me, our statistics aren’t showing good results.

Would the Minister enlighten this House on the intake of the program and our success rate?

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Five will be better than zero. That’s success in my view, in my eyes. Again, this is an area we need to re-evaluate. The college is going through their overall program delivery and program review. They have conducted, this past summer, I believe, a five-year strategic plan. Part of that will be social work, the diploma programs, and the degree programs, potentially. So I will be addressing this with the college to see where they stand and see where they’re going with it.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

One would be better than none. So, frankly, five is better than none, absolutely. I agree with the Minister on that. When we look at the landslide and the fact that way more people enter than ever graduate, it’s almost a disappointment. That’s why I bring my last question to the House.

The Minister says we need to re-valuate. Fantastic news. I want to know what that looks like and will he address the lack of the Bachelor of Social Work Program here in the Northwest Territories. As I began my Member’s statement today, now is our opportunity to develop a Social Work Program just like we did for the teachers, just like we did for the nurses and we can work to ensure Northerners are properly trained for our own people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Yes, I will be delivering the same messages to the college president and also the Board of Governors. Again, they are going through their strategic planning, so I am sure they will consider this as part of their discussion. Mahsi.

Question 20-17(5): Enhancement Of Aurora College Social Work Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Moses.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have questions today for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. We’ve discussed this before, but as some of my colleagues from the small communities have asked questions today with regard to academic programs, Grade 12 programs in the small communities, I wanted to ask the Minister what 30-level courses are being offered in the small communities. I know in the Deh Cho, there are six small communities. In the Inuvik region, there are six small communities outside of Inuvik.

What 30-level courses, academic courses, are currently being offered in these small communities in the regions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. The honourable Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Every school is different, especially in the small, isolated communities where we’re lacking some of the academic programming, whether it be chemistry, biology or pure math and others. I’m glad the Member is raising that. The Beaufort-Delta, again, has been very successful. Our prime focus today is how can we invest that into other regions into other communities as a model. Even though we may not be delivering these core, academic courses in small, isolated communities, that is the overall plan through education renewal and through his e-learning that’s been very successful. We will be capturing that. Mahsi.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

The Minister is leading right into where I was moving with my questions in terms of e-learning. I was going to ask him what is the cost of adding another academic teacher into one of these small communities, just one out of the six. What is the cost of a highly qualified educator that can teach one of these advanced learning Math 30, Chemistry 30 courses in our small communities? What would the cost be to the department? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

I don’t have the detailed breakdown of the cost. I would guess one professional teacher would be upward of $200,000 all inclusive, and travelling and so forth. This is a worthwhile initiative in our communities. Similar to the South Slave, the literacy coach has been very successful to date and now the e-learning is happening and we’re very closely monitoring it. We’re working closely with the Beaufort-Delta Board of Education and the superintendent and sharing all the information. Now, my department is evaluating the whole educational system, so we can partake in that, as well, in the small communities. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

With the e-learning program, I’m a strong supporter of the program itself. The Social Programs committee sat before the e-learning process in the classroom and we did one of our correspondence on the Education Act on it, so we saw it work firsthand. Speaking with the individuals who run the program, we had educators from McPherson teaching people in Inuvik and in Tuk, and we actually had educators in Tuk teaching people in Inuvik and McPherson. So it’s a great program. We just heard from our Member from the Deh Cho that there are six small communities who could benefit from that program. We have four other communities in the Inuvik region that can benefit from that program.

Enough evaluating. Will this Minister commit to providing sufficient dollars to run that program in other communities in the Inuvik region so that we have higher graduation rates and higher education levels within our education system? Thank you.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. When I said evaluating the whole situation, obviously we have to do our homework. The Beaufort-Delta provided us valuable information that we can move forward on. As a department, we’re working very closely with other DEAs and DECs in the regions. We may not cover all isolated communities, but we want to capture as much as we can, at least one per region as a start. I want to move forward on this through the business planning process and the action plan that’s going to be delivered in this House. It will be captured. Mahsi.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to get further commitment since this ERI is a 10-year action plan, can we see an action plan for the e-learning specifically over the 10 years where it will develop from not only providing educational services in Tuktoyaktuk and Fort McPherson, but down the Mackenzie Valley to more of our 33 communities that we provide services for? Thank you.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. I was witness to the e-learning as well. I was participating in the class setting and sharing with students from Tuktoyaktuk and McPherson. Even part of Inuvik, I was in class. I have seen a difference and I’ve told my department that we need to invest in these key areas in small communities such as Nahendeh, the six small schools, and also the Member’s riding, the four communities, and other communities, as well, that are very isolated and may not be delivering core courses that are required, so we can have academic students moving on to post-secondary. That’s my goal and objective as the Minister responsible for Education. Mahsi.

Question 21-17(5): Delivery Of Academic Curriculum In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Time for oral questions is expired. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Mr. Ramsay.

Tabled Document 5-17(5): Grants And Contributions 2012-2013 Results Report Tabled Document 6-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Contracts Over $5,000 Report For The Year Ended March 31, 2013
Tabling of Documents

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following two documents, entitled 2012-2013 Grants and Contributions Results Report, and Government of the Northwest Territories Contracts Over $5,000 Report for the Fiscal Year Ending March 31, 2013. Thank you.

Tabled Document 5-17(5): Grants And Contributions 2012-2013 Results Report Tabled Document 6-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Contracts Over $5,000 Report For The Year Ended March 31, 2013
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Tabled Document 7-17(5): NWT Days Evaluation, November 2013
Tabling of Documents

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document, entitled NWT Days Evaluation, November 2013. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 7-17(5): NWT Days Evaluation, November 2013
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Miltenberger.

Tabled Document 8-17(5): A Powerful Past: 2013 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Power Corporation Tabled Document 9-17(5): Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation Annual Report, March 31, 2013 Tabled Document 10-17(5): Public Accounts, 2012-2013 Tabled Document 11-17(5): List Of Inter-Activity T
Tabling of Documents

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following two documents, entitled A Powerful Past: 2013 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Power Corporation; and Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation Annual Report, March 31, 2013. Mr. Speaker, I also wish to table the following two documents, entitled Public Accounts 2012-2013, and List of Interactivity Transfers Exceeding $250,000 for the Period April 1 to September 30, 2013.

Tabled Document 8-17(5): A Powerful Past: 2013 Annual Report, Northwest Territories Power Corporation Tabled Document 9-17(5): Northwest Territories Hydro Corporation Annual Report, March 31, 2013 Tabled Document 10-17(5): Public Accounts, 2012-2013 Tabled Document 11-17(5): List Of Inter-Activity T
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Tabled Document 12-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Annual Report On Official Languages 2012-2013
Tabling of Documents

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document, entitled Government of the Northwest Territories Annual Report on Official Languages 2012-2013. Mahsi.

Tabled Document 12-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Annual Report On Official Languages 2012-2013
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Bromley.

Tabled Document 12-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Annual Report On Official Languages 2012-2013
Tabling of Documents

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to return to item 8 on the Order Paper. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

Tabled Document 12-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Annual Report On Official Languages 2012-2013
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Item 8, written questions. Mr. Bromley.

Written Question 1-17(5): Calculating Eligibility For Income Support
Written Questions (Reversion)

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

1. When assessing a client’s need for income

support, what are the main factors (rent, income from various sources, number of children, et cetera) that are considered? In other words, how is the amount of income support determined?

2. When assessing a client’s need for income

support, what is the level of monthly income below which a client is considered in need of income support for:

a) an 18-year-old living on their now in

Yellowknife?

b) a single parent with three children in

Yellowknife?

c) an unemployed couple with two children in

Yellowknife?

d) a senior living on their own in Yellowknife?

3. Are income support needs calculated differently

in each NWT community? If so, for the same four examples listed above, what is the level of monthly income below which a client is considered in need of income support in each NWT community?

4. In the most recent year that has complete data,

how many individuals received income support in each NWT community?

5. For that same period of time, what were the

total income support payments made in each NWT community?

Written Question 2-17(5): Calculating Eligibility For Public Housing Rental Subsidies
Written Questions (Reversion)

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

My questions are for the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation.

1. When assessing a client’s rental payment, what

are the main factors (income from various sources, number of children, et cetera) that are considered? In other words, how is the amount of rent determined?

2. When assessing a client’s need for income

support, what is the level of monthly income below which a client is considered in need of subsidized rent for:

a) an 18-year-old living on their own in

Yellowknife?

b) a single parent with three children in

Yellowknife?

c) an unemployed couple with two children in

Yellowknife?

d) a senior living on their own in Yellowknife?

3. Are rent subsidy needs calculated differently in

each NWT community? If so, for the same four examples listed above, what is the level of monthly income below which a client is considered in need of rental subsidies in each NWT community?

4. In the most recent year that has complete data,

how many individuals received a rental subsidy in each NWT community?

5. For that same period of time, what were the

total value of rental subsidies (compared to what the client would have paid at “market rates”) made in each NWT community?

Written Question 2-17(5): Calculating Eligibility For Public Housing Rental Subsidies
Written Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. We usually only have four, but I’ll let you go today with five in regard to that. Item 15, notices of motion. Mr. Menicoche.

Motion 5-17(5): Education Renewal And Innovation
Notices of Motion

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, November 8, 2013, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, that this Legislative

Assembly recommends that the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment (ECE) set and publish concrete targets for early childhood and student achievement within a prescribed time frame, and describe actions to be taken to achieve the targets;

And further, that ECE and the Department of Health and Social Services substantially increase and improve community-based, GNWT-supported early childhood development programs and resources to support them;

And further, that ECE now involve more communities, parents and teachers in implementing education renewal, and to promote greater understanding of this initiative;

And furthermore, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a comprehensive response to this motion within 120 days.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I’ll be seeking unanimous consent to deal with this motion today. Thank you.

Motion 5-17(5): Education Renewal And Innovation
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Dolynny.

Motion 6-17(5): Strengthening Municipal Enforcement Of Liquor Laws
Notices of Motion

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, November 8, 2013, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Minister of Finance undertake discussion and amendments to the Liquor Act or other legislation, as required, to provide municipal enforcement officers with the authority to enforce liquor infractions;

And further, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a comprehensive response to this motion within 120 days.

Motion 6-17(5): Strengthening Municipal Enforcement Of Liquor Laws
Notices of Motion

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Mr. Yakeleya.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

WHEREAS the Sahtu region has an employment rate of 55 percent;

AND WHEREAS approximately 9 percent of the population of the Northwest Territories has less than a Grade 9 education and 20 percent of the

population has not obtained education beyond high school;

AND WHEREAS the Government of the Northwest Territories strongly supports a resident workforce in existing and future development;

AND WHEREAS there is a potential for major industrial development in the Sahtu that would result in a great demand for skilled workers;

AND WHEREAS there is an increasing demand for renewable energy development in every Sahtu community, creating a long-lasting demand for skilled workers, particularly amongst the local resident population;

AND WHEREAS resident workforce development has been identified as a key piece of Sahtu exploration readiness;

AND WHEREAS the pending Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk highway and future infrastructure initiatives in the Northwest Territories will also create a demand for skilled workers;

AND WHEREAS there is a growing shortage of skilled labour nationwide;

AND WHEREAS Aurora College, the Mine Training Society and partnerships with industry have provided successful opportunities for the development of the northern workforce;

NOW THEREFORE I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, that the Government of the Northwest Territories conduct a planning study in the 2014-2015 fiscal year for a Sahtu regional institute of technology;

AND FURTHER, that the Government of the Northwest Territories provide a response to this motion within 120 days.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Yakeleya.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I stated in the motion, the Sahtu employment rate is at 55 percent, and also that 9 percent of the population in the Northwest Territories has a less than Grade 9 education, and 20 percent of the population has not yet obtained an education beyond high school.

When I did my numbers here in the Sahtu, there are 675 youth between the ages of 10 and 24 years of age. That’s a high population. That’s 30 percent of the entire Sahtu population, which is about 2,680 people, according to our stats here.

With all the oil and gas development, there is great potential for major industrial development in the Sahtu and the Northwest Territories that would greatly benefit everybody and also benefit a great demand for skilled workers. In a newspaper article in the Edmonton Journal on July 20, 2013, in the article, the lady, Cheryl Knight, the president of the Petroleum Human Resources Council of Canada,

said about the jobs that are going to come into the oil and gas industry. By 2022 the oil and gas industry will sustain up to one million jobs across Canada with about 200,000 of those jobs directly related to the oil patch.

Canada is getting ready, and we need to get ready in the Sahtu, in the Northwest Territories. The numbers are there that speak quite forcefully on the number of workers that we’re going to need.

There is an increased demand for renewable resource energy development in the Sahtu communities, creating a long-lasting demand for skilled workers and mostly local residents. In the exploration report tabled by Minister Ramsay in ITI, they give us a simple picture as to what type of skilled labour is going to be needed this winter, next winter, and in the future.

For example, the pending Inuvik-Tuk highway and other future infrastructure in the Northwest Territories are also creating a demand for skilled workers, especially in those communities. The Department of Transportation set up a training program up in the Inuvik-Tuk Highway Project. There is a training program going on there. We can do it also. Like I said, there’s going to be a growing shortage of skilled labour nationwide, and we need to respond to that.

Last year, 26 students in the Sahtu graduated from their high school in 2012, and the numbers are increasing each year. Seven students last year graduated from a post-secondary education. Another example of a training program at Aurora College and the Mine Training Society that partnerships with industry has provided successful opportunities for development of the northern workforce.

I ask all Members to support this motion. This motion talks about creating and having a planning study for a Sahtu regional institution of technology in the life of this government so that we can put plans together and get ready for the potential oil and gas exploration that’s going to happen in the Sahtu with all types of areas that we need to look at, from environment to oil and gas to administration.

I thank the Members for allowing me to bring this motion to the floor, and I look forward to their support on this motion.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. I’ll allow the seconder to the motion, Mr. Hawkins.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When Mr. Yakeleya first stated this idea to me, I thought it was a fantastic idea. It’s quite a breath of fresh air in the way we do business, and we should really target areas that could really use not only educational opportunities, but educational opportunities that are necessary and are relevant.

This motion is, really, it’s talking about the tsunami of opportunities that are sort of creeping along and about to crash into the Sahtu region. There is so much opportunity there, but one of the key things to this is they need skilled workers that are relevant to that industry.

The idea of a Sahtu regional institute of technology, I have to say, is right along the lines of a brilliant idea about getting the right type of skills in the right area. We could talk at length, if not days, about the need for skilled labour in the Northwest Territories. We often hear criticism from folks like myself about our socio-economic agreements not being lived up to, certainly, in the spirit and the intent.

If we can’t get them here, you know, let’s train them. Let’s start training and developing our own people who want jobs. This is a real opportunity in the sense of energy, in the sense of future, in the sense of investments, but that’s dwarfed by the opportunity and the untapped potential that belongs in people who are looking for work so they can feed their families, so they can house their families, so they have a future.

In short, this is a great motion. I look forward to the free vote from Cabinet to support this. They’re so happy. They were smiling when I said that, I know. I just, once again, want to thank Mr. Yakeleya for this initiative. If it just takes ideas like this to finally break through that crusty exterior Cabinet has on Members’ ideas, this is the excitement we need to do. I hope this motion passes. It certainly has my full support.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Lafferty.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to thank the Member for putting the motion forward in this House. As Members are aware, to meet programming infrastructure needs, all departments follow and also plan within the GNWT’s established capital planning process. The capital planning process contains a method to identify the highest priority projects using these five conditions: protection of the people, assets and environment, financial investments and also program needs and requirements.

For the proposed education or training projects, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment explores possibilities and capital needs with education and training partners, such as Aurora College, divisional education councils and regional training partnerships. To date, the department has been working closely with ITI on the Sahtu potential and has been conducting needs assessments, beginning in 2012. The first phase was completed, focusing on potential industry needs, should a commitment arise from the company exploring the Sahtu potential. A second needs assessment, of course, is underway, with local businesses,

educators, NGOs, and various levels of government involvement.

It is also important to know that while there appears to be potential, we do not have either a scope of work or time commitment from the company currently exploring the region for a definitive or expansive drilling plan. We are, however, ensuring that we have continuing opportunities and people in place to address potential training needs and opportunities.

Over the last few years, ECE’s career development expenditures in Sahtu increased by nearly 90 percent, to $798,000 in 2013-2014. These are delivered through Canada-NWT Labour Market agreements and territorial programs. Residents also can access programs in the NWT through our colleges and various levels of programming. Funding has been allocated to two new positions that will support the coordination of training for the Sahtu region as well. Both positions are located in Norman Wells and include a career development officer at the ECE Service Centre in Sahtu region and a training coordinator at the college. As well, the Sahtu regional training partnership has a five-year training plan to identify and guide training for the region.

The merits of the Sahtu Institute of Technology will certainly continue to be assessed in the capital planning process and through our ongoing work with our partners to provide training employment opportunities in the Sahtu region. Since the motion is a direction to this government, Cabinet will abstain. Mahsi.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. I will allow the mover of the motion to have closing remarks. Mr. Yakeleya.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, due to the increase of activity now in the Sahtu, when you have a record-breaking number of parcels being taken up by the major oil companies of the world and spending over $600 million, close to $700 million, you know there is something happening very big. Even if the Fraser Institute report comes out saying that it’s not very good to have investments in the Sahtu, and the next day you have a company come and say we’re going to spend over $700 million in the development of the Sahtu oil and gas exploration, you know that when Husky Energy puts in a $45 million road out in nowhere, putting in two big camps, you know there’s something big there. A company does not throw out $45 million. It’s like us coming around this table and arguing for $45 million of road of where infrastructure should go. They know there’s a potential there. When a company this winter spends $75 million going into the Sahtu communities, going into the Sahtu region, you know there’s something there and they’re going to develop it.

So, I’m saying that put it in the planning study and look at it. We need to have a serious look at the trades. It shows here in the trades of how many millions of dollars, $350 million going out of the Northwest Territories because of the lack of tradespeople in the North here. That says something.

Sahtu needs to have a training institute. Look at it. Look at the planning study so that the oil companies and us and the Aboriginal governments say yes, we can start the planning process and see where we can get the funding.

This is serious stuff here. We’re talking about looking at the Sahtu and looking at how we can get the students and the people ready. That’s what I’m asking for through this motion. The oil companies and that are saying if the resources are proven up from exploration wells, using the technology of hydraulic fracking, we could be there for 30 years or longer. That is real. That is real.

We have a training institute here in Yellowknife and the NWT Mining Society and they’re producing some pretty good, skilled workers and we’re supporting them. We’re supporting them. It’s no different than asking for our people in the Sahtu to support us through a planning study. Look at it. If there are other regions, yes, we’ll do that too, if that’s what they’re looking for.

But today the action is in Yellowknife for the diamond mines and in the Sahtu for the oil and gas exploration. That’s where the action is. We have to look at that. That’s what we’re saying in the Sahtu. We appreciate what the government has done to respond to the needs of the Sahtu, because we’re asking for help. The Sahtu has said yes. In spite of all the controversy of fracking and environmental, they said yes. We will bring in $75 million this year, this winter, into the economy of the Northwest Territories. We brought in over $100 million last year. All through these years, we’re going to bring in over $600 million into the Sahtu, into the Northwest Territories, and say we need some help. We have seen workers coming off the planes. We don’t know where they’re from. They’re from the South and they’re working on our gas and oilfields because the oil companies say we don’t have the trades, we don’t have the expertise, the specialists. But we’re saying okay, let’s do something about it.

I’m asking through this motion to seriously look at this and help the people in the Sahtu and all the five communities, even the people of the Northwest Territories. There’s more than enough work there for the people in the Sahtu. That’s what I’m asking through this motion. In their goodness of heart and the criteria, I know it’s right here in the capital planning study I’m looking at, and give some consideration to what’s happening in the Sahtu. They’ll get a sense of what’s coming down the tube in our region. We’re asking, the goodness at the

heart of this motion is to look at a planning study for a regional institute. That’s what we want.

I thank the Members for hearing me out and rising to the floor. Mahsi.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. To the motion.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Question has been called.

---Carried

Mr. Menicoche.

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to deal with the motion I gave notice of earlier today.

---Unanimous consent denied

Motion 1-17(5): Sahtu Institute Of Technology Planning Study, Carried
Motions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Item 18, first reading of bills. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Bill 1: Reindeer Act
First Reading of Bills

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha, that Bill 1, Reindeer Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 1: Reindeer Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Bill 1 has had first reading.

---Carried

The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Bill 2: Archaeological Sites Act
First Reading of Bills

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Monfwi, that Bill 2, Archaeological Sites Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 2: Archaeological Sites Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Bill 2 has had first reading.

---Carried

The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Bill 3: Surface Rights Board Act
First Reading of Bills

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 3, Surface Rights Board Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 3: Surface Rights Board Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Bill 3 has had first reading.

---Carried

Minister Abernethy.

Bill 4: Health Information Act
First Reading of Bills

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, that Bill 4, Health Information Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 4: Health Information Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Bill 4 has had first reading.

---Carried

Mr. Beaulieu.

Bill 5: An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act
First Reading of Bills

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Great Slave, that Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 5: An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, has had first reading.

---Carried

Mr. Abernethy.

Bill 6: An Act To Amend The Medical Care Act
First Reading of Bills

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Medical Care Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 6: An Act To Amend The Medical Care Act
First Reading of Bills

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Medical Care Act, has had first reading.

---Carried

Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 1-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015; and Tabled Document 4-17(5), Northwest Territories Electoral Boundaries Commission 2013 Final Report, with Mrs. Groenewegen in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We’d like to deal with Tabled Document 1-17(5). I would like to just mention that Tabled Document 4-17(5), NWT

Electoral Boundaries Commission 2013 Final Report will be left on the Order Paper. We won’t deal with it today as we have a motion pending that was deferred yesterday. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Is committee agreed?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

We’ll proceed with that after a brief break.

---SHORT RECESS

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I’d like to call Committee of the Whole back to order. We have one item before us this afternoon and that is Tabled Document 1-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015. I would like to ask Minister Miltenberger if he would like to please provide the opening comments. Minister Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am here to present Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015. This document provides for an increase of $2 million for capital investment expenditures in the 2014-2015 fiscal year.

The one item in these supplementary estimates is to provide funding to resume the Detah Access Road Project in the 2014-2015 fiscal year.

I am prepared to review the estimates of the supplementary estimates document. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. I’d like to ask the Minister if he’d like to bring witnesses into the Chamber.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. I’ll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses to the table.

For the record, Mr. Miltenberger, please introduce your witnesses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Madam Chair, I have with me Mr. Michael Aumond, deputy minister of Finance. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. I am going to open the floor for general comments.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Detail.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Detail? Okay, thank you. Please turn your attention to page 5 of the document. Government of the Northwest Territories 2014-2015 Supplementary Appropriation

(Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, Transportation, capital investment expenditure, highways, not previously authorized, $2 million. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thanks to the Minister for his opening remarks. I just want to put in a word here of appreciation, on behalf of the folks in Detah and all those that use that road, to my colleagues and to the Minister and all my colleagues in the House for approving this or proposing this expenditure.

It’s been a very long time. I think people know that the road was originally just thrown in almost on an incidental basis. They got a tractor out there and basically put soil and gravel on top of the vegetation. It wasn’t even properly cleared. As a result, it’s suffered a lot of problems over the years. People have paid for that in one way or the other, so this is very good news.

To date, this project has been funded in a happy-go-lucky way and mostly not funded. We’ve just been through another couple of years where it wasn’t funded, so I appreciate the very intentional let’s fund this project and hopefully let’s fund it to completion.

I appreciate the House bringing this forward. Obviously, it will be getting my support and on behalf of the people of Detah. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just appreciate the Member’s comments. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Transportation, capital investment expenditures, highways, not previously authorized, $2 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Total department, not previously authorized, $2 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Does committee agree that we have now concluded consideration of Tabled Document 1-17(5)?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Madam Chair, I move that consideration of Tabled Document 1-17(5),

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, be now concluded and that Tabled Document 1-17(5) be reported and recommended as ready for further consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Mahsi, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Question is being called.

---Carried

I’d like to ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witness from the Chamber. Does committee agree that concludes our business in Committee of the Whole?

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Ms. Bisaro.

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I move that we report progress.

---Carried

Committee Motion 4-17(5): Concurrence Of Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I will now rise and report progress. Thank you.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Can I have the report from Committee of the Whole, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 1-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditure), No. 1, 2014-2015, and would like to report progress with one motion being adopted, that consideration of Tabled Document 1-17(5) is concluded and that the House concur with those estimates and an appropriation bill to be based thereon be introduced without delay. I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report of Committee of the Whole
Report of Committee of the Whole

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you. Do I have a seconder? Mr. Bromley.

---Carried

Item 22, third reading of bills. Madam Clerk, orders of the day.

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

Clerk Of The House (Ms. Langlois)

Mr. Speaker, orders of the day for Thursday, November 7, 2013, at 1:30 p.m.

1. Prayer

2. Ministers’

Statements

3. Members’

Statements

4. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

5. Returns to Oral Questions

6. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

7. Acknowledgements

8. Oral

Questions

9. Written

Questions

10. Returns to Written Questions

11. Replies to Opening Address

12. Petitions

13. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

14. Tabling of Documents

15. Notices of Motion

16. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

17. Motions

- Motion 3, Extended Adjournment of the House to February 5, 2014

- Motion 4, Appointment of Languages Commissioner

18. First Reading of Bills

19. Second Reading of Bills

- Bill 1, Reindeer Act

- Bill 2, Archaeological Sites Act

- Bill 3, Surface Rights Board Act

- Bill 4, Health Information Act

- Bill 5, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act

- Bill 6, An Act to Amend the Medical Care Act

20. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of

Bills and Other Matters

- Tabled Document 4-17(5), Northwest Territories Electoral Boundaries Commission 2013 Final Report

21. Report of Committee of the Whole

22. Third Reading of Bills

23. Orders of the day

Orders of the Day
Orders of the Day

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Thursday, November 7th , at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 4:12 p.m.