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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The plan as it now exists on a go-forward basis is, yes, that we have carry-overs this year. The plan will have further reference and the intent would be to have it concluded through the next two cycles, so that by ’15-16 the project will be complete.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Department of Health. Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to add my voice to the comments that have already been made by Mr. Bromley and Mr. Dolynny. I, too, have been waiting for some comprehensive renovations at Stanton and we’re still waiting, so I just want to add my voice of discontent to those of my colleagues’.

I have one question with regard to the planning study. As advised, this was a $5 million budget and we are carrying over almost $2.2 million, which suggests that it’s getting there. It’s maybe 60 percent done. But I’d like to know from the Minister when this planning study is expected to be finished. He’s advised us that there’s going to be money in the next capital budget for this particular project, but is it going to be a situation of a planning study not being done until the end of this fiscal year and we’re then carrying over the $20 million because we’re not ready to go to any, you know, to further the project? When is this planning study going to be done?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Mr. Miltenberger.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. The design work is scheduled to be completed this fall, 2013.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

If we have design work done this fall, what’s the time frame after that? How soon

would we go to an RFP or a tender process, and how soon would we expect a contract would be awarded? When would we be able to start construction?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Another piece that has to be done and we will be working on tied into this class C estimate is the P3 analysis. There is going to be $20 million in the budget upcoming for ’14-15, so the actual schedule, without having seen the class C estimate, I don’t think, is clearly in place, but I’ll ask Mr. Guy if he would want to add any particular detail that he may have.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Thank you, Madam Chair. In terms of the planning study work that we have done to date, we have completed the operational plan, the needs analysis, functional program, the technical evaluation, the block planning study. Those are all key components to the completion of the planning study.

The next piece which we have been working on since early January has been developing the schematic design, and that is working towards the class C cost estimate. Once that work is complete, then we will know what the cost of the facility will be and how our funding will need to be cash flowed going forward on that. That will then also feed into both the capital planning process, but as well, as the Minister said, there is a P3 analysis going on as well. That is being done in parallel so that we are not waiting until our schematic work is done. We are doing in parallel to help expedite the process. We are working towards that fall date. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair, and thanks to Mr. Guy for that explanation. My next question was whether or not the P3 investigation would further hold up the project. I am really glad to hear we are doing two things at once. I imagine many people in the public don’t think the government can do that. I am very glad that we can.

That is all I have, Madam Chair. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Next I have Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have questions and concerns, but the first is in regard to the proposed Fort Providence health centre. I could probably safely say that the community looks forward to the construction of the new health centre to replace the old building. We are looking forward to seeing it realized. I just wanted to see if there is a commitment from the Department of Public Works or the Department of Health and Social Services to meet with the community at some point, more likely

the contractor has to be involved with that, but to ensure that the community residents do have input into a building that more likely will service the community for the next 50 years, and whether that opportunity will be forthcoming very soon.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Madam Chair, yes, Fort Providence health centre project was just recently tendered and contracted and awarded in late May to design/build construction project and just working through the initial steps. A commitment has been made, working with the Department of Health and ourselves, the contractor and their consultant, to come forward in late June or early July to meet with the community to discuss the design concept and provide an overview of the project and the schedule moving forward.

Construction is slated to start later this summer and we are anticipating that the project will be complete by early in January of 2015. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Madam Chair, at this point has the department had any preliminary ideas as to the fate of the old health centre, realizing that, when the community health centre is completed, there will be a decision that will have to be made regarding the old health centre?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

At this point the existing health centre will be used to continue to deliver programs and services until the new facility is complete. At that point the Department of Health and Social Services will have to make a decision on whether that facility is surplused to their needs. At that point we would go through the Disposal Policy to see if there is another use or whether it would be surplus, sold or demolished. We have not done that work yet. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Madam Chair, my next question is in regard to the health station replacement on the Hay River Reserve. I understand that there is a building that is sitting there empty, unoccupied. I just want to clarify if the building is complete. What is the $180,000 for?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Paul Guy

Madam Chair, the project is substantially complete. There are some minor seasonal deficiencies and project manual documentation, owner’s manuals and things like that remain to be completed by the contractor. Whatever there is, nothing that I am aware of that would prevent the facility from being used at this point. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Has the department had any discussions with Health and Social Services as to a timeline of what we could perhaps expect as an opening and the operation of the health centre on the reserve?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. The department has had discussions with the Deh Cho Health and Social Services and also the Hay River Health and Social Services on a way to open up the health centre. We are looking at providing the health services from the Hay River Health and Social Services in that office and trying to determine what the level of needs would be for clinical needs on the reserve. So whether or not there would be, as you know, we only have one doctor in the Hay River Health and Social Services Authority. So we would be using locums and nurse practitioners to assist in the operation of the clinics in Hay River as well as the new clinic on the Hay River Reserve. So we’ve had initial discussions. We fully intend to make that building operational as soon as we can.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

While we’re on the topic, is there a commitment of perhaps a date that we could see it eventually open? I think the residents and potential staff look forward to a new building that perhaps could be enjoyed by the residents of the reserve instead of currently travelling the road and going into town on the other side of the river. So is there a specific date that we should expect it to be open?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

I don’t have that information with me. The last information I have is there was some issue about the land tenure. The Hay River Reserve, the majority of the land is federal land, if not all. So we’re just sorting out the land tenure and I believe that that has been sorted out. So I could maybe commit to trying to get the centre opened this summer.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. We’re on page 10, Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, health and social services programs, not previously authorized, $26.077 million. Mr. Yakeleya.