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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that. Good to know. Does implementation enter into this section or is it in another section, and with devolution, has there been an increase in the activity for us in this department in and around implementation?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

I think we already approved the implementation section. But devolution was a fairly seamless transition and it hasn’t resulted in any increased requirements for funding under implementation. Most of the implementation is for implementation of land claims or self-government.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks to the Premier for that information. Just one last question. I’d like to ask about negotiations with both the federal government and Lutselk'e Dene Band in and around the Thaidene Nene National Park. Where do we stand as the GNWT? What is our role in these negotiations? Can I get some kind of a status report on where the negotiations are at? Are they at a standstill? Are they moving forward? Are they going backwards? We haven’t heard anything about it for quite some time.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

It’s quite a complex arrangement. We have tried to make sure that the

negotiations for land claims and self-government, although it’s coordinated, the lead on dealing with Thaidene Nene has been identified as the Department of ENR, working very closely with ITI, Lands, Aboriginal Affairs, Justice and other departments, whereby we expect to have a park complemented by northern tools, and there are some active discussions going on as we speak.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Just one last question. Can we get any kind of an indication of when we might get some kind of a resolution and some kind of an agreement on this proposed park?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

The federal government has agreed to pause at their end to allow us to work with the Lutselk'e and we expect to have some results by the end of March or early April that would indicate whether we’re moving forward or not.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Premier McLeod. Committee, we’re on page 47, negotiations, operations expenditure summary, $2.609 million.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Page

49,

negotiations, active positions. Questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Page 50, lease commitments. Questions?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Work performed on behalf of others. Questions? Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Just a question here. I note from the ’14-15 Main Estimates to the ’15-16 Main Estimates the amounts are pretty similar but the revised estimates for ’14-15 went up some $200,000 or so. Could I get an explanation as to why the revised mains are so much higher and why we’ve gone back down to a lower number for the start of this budget? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Director Robertson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robertson

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The nature of these four implementation agreements allow for carry-over of unspent money from year to year. What you’re seeing from the increase from the opening ’14-15 mains to the revised is the accounting entry to record the money that was unspent from the year prior, so we are allowing to carry it forward and it enables to spend it in the year of ‘14-15. The ‘15-16 is the money that will be allocated from the federal government. There will be a similar accounting entry that will take place after the year-end closes to make an adjustment for that carry-over. The good news is we don’t have to return it back to the Canada. We are allowed to carry that forward, but it’s money that we use for the overall coordination which goes towards

salaries and our travel and hosting the various committee meetings that we are responsible for. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Director Robertson. Committee, we are on page 51. Mr. Yakeleya.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chair, I just want to understand something from the section here, Sahtu land claim implementation. Under the terms, the territorial government will get funding from Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada, and Canada will provide a 2015 grant payment to the GNWT to assist the Sahtu implementation activities pursuant to the Sahtu Implementation Plan. Just help me out here. There is one government giving another government money, so then they can help with the implementation of the Sahtu Implementation Plan? Is that normal? Is that what the process is set up to? How many activities, I guess, with the Sahtu Implementation Plan are done or concluded or are ongoing? I’m trying to figure that out here. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Premier McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think the Member answered his own question, but I will ask, through you, for Mr. Robertson to go in more detail.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Director Robertson, go ahead, please.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robertson

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In negotiating the implementation plan for the Sahtu Agreement, we recognize that the GNWT would have obligations stemming from the Sahtu Final Agreement. The negotiations were successful in achieving some money from Canada to be able to fund those obligations. So the federal government will provide the Sahtu directly for the cost of implementation; the GNWT receives money for their own obligations that they need to carry out as a result of the final agreement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Director Robertson. Mr. Yakeleya.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you. I knew I was smart. I knew I should have listened to my Mom, who said, “You’re smart. You’re smart.”

I want to ask the Minister on the implementation plan for the Sahtu that we fulfilled all obligations under the Sahtu Implementation Plan by our government, because I’m hearing some other things from the federal government that they’re not quite all completed. You know, some of the implementation plan is 10 or 20 years late. I’m trying to figure that out. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Premier McLeod.