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Question 666-18(2): Proposed Carbon Pricing Charette
Oral Questions

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

In my statement, as I stated earlier, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, along with a number of other Aboriginal governments and community governments in the City of Yellowknife and surrounding, from what I understand, they are looking for in the neighbourhood of $135,000. I am sure the Premier will see another proposal here shortly. From what I understand, there was one submitted earlier, but I am sure another could be resubmitted.

Also, my next question is: to make sure we are not reinventing the wheel, the charette's participants will need to know clearly where this government stands on its energy and climate change planning. How will the Premier in his role as the chair of the Ministerial Coordinating Committee on Energy and Climate Change make sure the charette's organizers have transparent and up-to-date information on the GNWT policies and planning actions, for instance, providing a summary document and sending staff representation?

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

I am very much looking forward to the proposal. I am not exactly clear whether this is a private sector initiative or it is something for government. At any rate, we have a team of people from the Departments of ENR and Public Works working on public engagement and the development of strategies that align with our long-term objectives. These teams include senior officials of the Government of the Northwest Territories.

The Government of the Northwest Territories has a responsibility to lead the development of an energy strategy and a climate change framework, and that is what we intend to do. We are, of course, open to participating in stakeholder-driven engagement sessions. We may consider providing a summary document, depending on where we are at in the process of developing an energy strategy and a climate strategy because, from what I understand, what is being proposed is in June and, if we are only halfway through the process and there is nothing finalized, we don't want to mislead anybody. In principle, we are very open to working with all stakeholders.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

It sounds promising. I would like to ask the Premier: what project priorities can we expect to see the Ministerial Coordinating Committee take action on in the coming year?

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

The priorities that we pursue have not been determined, but they will be informed by our energy strategy and our climate change framework that we are developing. Certainly, we are pursuing funding from federal sources for various projects, including Taltson hydro initiatives, Inuvik wind projects, and projects to reduce the use of diesel fuel in Northwest Territories communities.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to Commissioner's opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Finance.

Tabled Document 307-18(2): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts Tabled Document 308-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports Tabled Document 309-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements
Tabling Of Documents

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following three documents entitled "Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts," "Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports," and "Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 307-18(2): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 4-18(2): Report on the Review of the 2014-15 Public Accounts Tabled Document 308-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 505-18(2): PeopleSoft Public Service Human Resource Reports Tabled Document 309-18(2): Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 606-18(2): Status of Transboundary Water Management Agreements
Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Member for Nunakput.

Tabled Document 310-18(2): We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, Senate of Canada, March 2017
Tabling Of Documents

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Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples entitled "We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 310-18(2): We Can Do Better: Housing in Inuit Nunagut Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, Senate of Canada, March 2017
Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters, Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Revolving Funds Act; Bill 13, Marriage Act; Committee Report 6-18(2), Report on the Review of Bill 7: An Act to Amend the Revolving Funds Act; Tabled Document 261-18(2), Northwest Territories Main Estimates, 2017-18; with the Member for Hay River North in the chair. By the authority given to me as Speaker by Motion 18-18(2), I hereby authorize the House to sit beyond the daily hour of adjournment to consider the business before the House.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 28th, 2017

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

I will now call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, committee wishes to consider Tabled Document 261-18(2), Northwest Territories Main Estimates 2017-2018 with the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. We will consider the document after a short break.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

I will call the Committee of the Whole back to order. Committee, we agreed to consider Tabled Document 261-18(2), Main Estimates 2017-2018, the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. I will turn to the Minister responsible for any opening comments. Minister McLeod, do you have opening comments?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I do. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to present the 2017-2018 Main Estimates for the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. Overall, the department's estimates propose an increase of $1.2 million over the 2016-2017 Main Estimates, which is a 1.3 per cent increase.

These estimates continue to support the GNWT's objective of ensuring a strong and sustainable future for the government and its programs while managing expenditures.

The 2017-2018 Main Estimates include an amortization increase of $2.3 million from the 2017-18 business plan reviewed by standing committee in September. At the time business plans are reviewed, the 2017-18 amortization plan had not been calculated. The majority of ENR's increase is a result of the Air Tractor 802A FireBoss Amphibious Water Bomber Fleet coming into service in April.

The 2017-2018 Main Estimates reflect the department's commitment to fiscally responsible management of its programs. These estimates include:

  • $2 million to continue implementation of the water stewardship strategy towards the implementation of trans-boundary water agreements with British Columbia and Alberta, the negotiation of similar agreements with Yukon and Saskatchewan, and the expansion of the hydrometric network.
  • $1.6 million in operational reductions.

The department's proposed spending in 2017-18 continues to support the priorities of the 18th Legislative Assembly. Specific activities in support of these priorities include the following, which are in the base budget:

  • $5.6 million for wildlife research and management which includes activities related to the barren-ground caribou and management strategies for wood bison, muskox, and moose;
  • $5.7 million for ENR regional field operations, which includes the development and implementation of a culturally appropriate hunter education program;
  • $6.3 million to ensure to meet our obligations to support environmental monitoring, research related to cumulative impacts on our ecosystems in settled and unsettled land claims area, and support for Aboriginal communities to participate in the land and resource management processes;
  • $2.3 million to support the traditional economy and knowledge program that will enhance existing programs and build new partnerships to support healthy and sustainable traditional lifestyles;
  • $1 million to support conservation planning which includes our commitment to completing Thaidene Nene;
  • $1 million for climate change initiatives, including finalization of the Northwest Territories Climate Change Framework, which will identify key themes and gaps in mitigation, adaptation, monitoring, research, and public engagement; and
  • $2 million for the operation of the environmental laboratory.

Environment and Natural Resources will continue to work towards updating and modernizing four acts, the Environmental Protection Act, Environmental Rights Act, Forest Management and Protection Act, Waters Act, and developing new protected areas legislation.

That concludes my opening remarks. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Do you have witnesses you would like to bring to the Chamber?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I do, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister, would you please introduce your witnesses to committee.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, with me today to my immediate right I have Dr. Erin Kelly, the assistant deputy minister of Environment and Natural Resources. To my left I have Susan Craig, who is the director of Corporate Services. To my far right, first day on the job, started at 5 a.m. this morning, is Dr. Joe Dragon, who will be our new deputy minister of Environment and Natural Resources, so we'll be having him answer all the questions today.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Welcome to all the witnesses. We will begin with general comments from committee. Just so everyone knows, this department starts on page 55 of the main estimates. Do we have general comments? First, I see Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the Minister and the department may know, I've done a number of statements over the while on the need for funding for a couple of my communities that I represent, Fort McPherson and Tsiigehtchic, with the firebreaks. It's very crucial that we keep these clear of debris and new vegetation that keeps growing. We are fairly lucky that we haven't had a major fire in these areas in the last while here, but it's just a matter of time. It's very important to be prepared, as we learned here in the south. We have been fortunate, no communities have had challenges anyway in the past. As we plan ahead, it's very important that we work with these communities to ensure that we update the firebreaks and ensure that we have funding available.

As I mentioned, Fort McPherson was so close to being approved, but a major fire near Yellowknife took a lot of those resources away that were available at the time. So, hopefully, within the next few months here we could plan to ensure that those communities receive the small amount of funding that's required. I know there is new funding available under other departments, but it is the responsibility of Environment and Natural Resources as well and good to work together. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to my previous colleague's comments; I'll just add a little more to that. Certainly, the committee respects that ENR has a number of major commitments during the life of the 18th Assembly's mandate. It has an ambitious legislative agenda as the government goes forward and implements new responsibilities for land and water management after devolution. Of course, with important initiatives like the Land Use Sustainability Framework and the Water Stewardship Strategy, the department, of course, has led the way in demonstrating collaborative and cooperative policy development process with Aboriginal governments and key stakeholders, and that is well appreciated.

The department is currently also in the midst, as we heard earlier today in a presentation, of preparing a Climate Change Strategic Framework that will help the territory meet its emission targets and, of course, ultimately help Canada meet its commitments with the Paris Agreement. These are no small matters and, of course, require time, expertise, and commiserate resources as we move forward.

We all are aware after many of the Members' statements today in the House that climate change is placing significant pressures on our land, our plants, animals, people, and, of course, as well the infrastructure of varying kinds throughout the North. The technical expertise, monitoring, and research within ENR is an asset to this government and will be an asset going forward with the decision-making that we have to make.

We need to continue to support these efforts, not just in principle but in allocating appropriate resources required to implement effective programs, and, of course, this is going to have dire effects going forward on our budget that's already arguably stressed.

Those are some general comments, Mr. Chair, but I think it is incumbent upon me to also indicate some of the aspects that the committee has shared with the Minister in the past with regard to areas within the department that we have either proposed or shown to the Minister that we are in opposition of a particular reduction or would like to see a certain investment instead. So as we move through today, we're going to hear folks as we get to key activity 2 under corporation management, the committee has shared in the past that we're opposed to the reduction to implement a corporate services model. We have shared our opinion on being opposed to eliminating the communications position. ENR is advancing a suite of environmental legislation that needs policy and communications and we see that that position will be critical in moving forward with that legislation.

Key activity 3, which is the environment; we've expressed opposition to eliminating the environmental protection officer position. This is a position in a small community and instead of removing it completely we would like to look at ways to modify the job description to better fit the immediate needs of the region.

Then, Mr. Chair, in key activity 5 under water resources, the committee has been in opposition to the source water protection. We understand the argument that the program originally funded by this line item has run its course, but water monitoring, baseline information gathering, implementing transboundary agreements are all the things that remain very important, and with climate change putting pressure on our resources we think it's crucial to continue to fund water protection and monitoring initiatives.

Those are just some of the general comments, Mr. Chair, that I wanted to share and just a repeat for the Minister and his staff, in particular new staff, as to some of the positions that we've been maintaining. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Next, I have Mr. Thompson.