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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I think I'm told that that's to align the office security with the acceptable standards of 2018. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I'm just looking through my notes here. I have one more about the fence issue here. Just so I understand this correctly, inmates who are minimum security will be now mixed with medium or maximum security inmates. Is this correct? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes, that certainly is possible, that prisoners with different designations would be mixed together, but I think that that wouldn't be such a big problem because you have to be motivated to want to enter the program. Hopefully, we would have motivated people from whatever security designation: minimum, medium, or maximum. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can the Minister just advise us of what minimum, medium, or maximum involves in the Northwest Territories? Are we talking one day less two years is your maximum? Is that where you you're at? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I don't have a chart or something along those lines, but common sense tells me that it's not necessarily the length of the sentence that determines which designation you would fall into. It's probably the type of offence, the record, are likely a major part in deciding which category incoming inmates fall into. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess common sense and hope would be that we'd be able to see something of a plan. Is this part of the plan? Is this information going to be provided? I'm sorry if I missed when you were answering Mr. Simpson's answer to that, but is there a plan that's available to explain to committee exactly how this program is going to work? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Certainly, we would be willing to share with committee. We would be very pleased to appear in front of committee to discuss this matter, our plans. We are working on program design at this time. We will be pleased also to discuss what training we are contemplating for the staff. Yes, we're very happy to appear in front of committee, should they wish. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Earlier, the Minister agreed to produce a detailed plan with timelines and present it publicly. Thank you. Mr. Thompson, nothing further?

Seeing nothing further, I will call this activity. Justice, corrections, infrastructure investments, $4 million. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Please turn to page 51, court services. Justice, court services. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have noticed that there is another project here for the Yellowknife Courthouse. I'm wondering if the Minister can speak to the feasibility study that's going into the potential stand-alone courthouse here, in the city of Yellowknife. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I know this is a long-standing concern to certainly the bar and bench. I can advise that we are working on a business case. That should be available by the end of November, at which point we could appear in front of committee and share that with them. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will take that as a commitment from the Minister. How many more resources are we going to expend up on this building that we currently rent from a private landlord? This is $341,000. There has been significantly more than that expended in the past. Are we going to continue to put millions of dollars into someone else's property, or are we going to complete these renos that are before us now, and then move on with a stand-alone courthouse? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. Our plan is to complete these current renovations that I know that committee might feel is throwing good money after bad, but even if we do move to a new stand-alone courthouse, and that is yet to be determined, clearly, it would take some time to build that or make those arrangements. I think we are going to be using the current Yellowknife courthouse for some period of time into the future, and we need to make sure that it is usable and up-to-date as possible.

Certainly, I hear the Member's concerns about putting additional money into a building we don't own. I hear you. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Testart.