This is page numbers 2439 - 2492 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will have to get back to the Member with further detail. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I see that is one of the problems. We develop strategies, but we never want to talk to the actual clients, the people who require the service. We went through that in Hay River where we had probably about seven or eight groups in a round table, and everybody was passing everything off. I asked them. I said, "Who talked to the guys on the street?" Nobody. What do they want? Well, that's what we have to find out. Right? It's important to do that. Not all of them want a one-stop shop. Some of them just want certain pieces of it. If you think that you are going to save everybody, that's just not realistic. I think you have to listen to what they want; otherwise, we are never going to achieve what is required.

The number of organizations that get involved in this is a problem, as well, because like I said, everybody passes the buck, and it comes down to: who is going to pay for it? Who is going to carry the liability? Who is going to monitor it? There're no spaces. We can't have it downtown. I have heard all that. I talked to both sides. The guy is coming to my office at 7:00 in the morning for coffee, and I'd BS with him there. Some of them are turning their lives around. They need encouragement, as well. They encourage me, as well, you know, to do better.

I think that, if this government is going to look at strategies, whether it is homeless or anything else, make sure if you do nothing at least talk to the clients. It's kind of like the RCMP houses. I suspect that nobody actually talked to the members what they require. That is our fault with the RCMP houses, the federal government's fault, as well. You'll learn so much, and it would save so much time. We would probably get things right if we do that. It's probably more of a comment than anything. The Minister can comment on that if she wishes while I get a chance to look at some of the numbers. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister, did you have any comments?

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Basically, just that within the Housing Corporation we do have a homelessness position there that oversees throughout the territory, but we have a lot of engagements that the department has flown into communities throughout the territory to look at those acquired services that are needed. They have met with clients face to face. We did have an on the ground homelessness, I want to say manager, I'm not too sure of the title, but just for an example we had a homelessness person come here to see myself at the Legislative Assembly and the Housing Corporation was quite connected to provide adequate services for the individual and making sure that they did have accommodations for that night. We do associate with the clients face to face. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Minister. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would ask: when did they visit Hay River and talk to some of the clientele? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll have Mr. Tom Williams respond. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. President Williams.

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Williams

Thank you, Madam Chair. In regard with Hay River, we did have an engagement there when we set up the homeless shelter there this fall. We did reach out, we met with the community, I think it was the Hay River council of disabilities that we worked with. They were the NGO that was sponsoring the homeless shelter. We did reach out to them, to their staff. We did reach out the clientele, and we have the facilities up and running right now. We hope it is a long-term engagement in Hay River because there is a need there. Right now, it's funded internally, but we will be going for forced growth. We have two shelters that we have to increase our numbers by. We also added one in Fort Simpson. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I expect that if you went and engaged with the clientele and the disabilities council, can you tell me how many clients they were serving at that shelter? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Fifteen. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. My understanding is that contract is up at the end of March. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Paulie Chinna

Paulie Chinna Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll forward the response to Vice-President Martin for further details. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Martin.

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Martin

Thank you, Madam Chair. With regard to the Hay River homeless shelter, I believe that's what we are referring to here, the expectation is that the Housing Corporation will continue to work with the operator and will extend those services into 2021-2022. As our president mentioned, we would be seeking support through the 2022-2023 business planning process for ongoing funding. That would be our objective. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Member for Hay River South.

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Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. What would the cost be per person per month? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.