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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is defeated.

---Defeated

Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Recommendations 14 and 15 are about the Members of the Legislative Assembly's pension plans. I move that this Assembly recommends that a reciprocal agreement with other registered pension plans, including Public Service Superannuation and Northern Employee Benefits Services, NEBS, be negotiated so pension amounts can be transferred. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Madam Chair, from a Member's perspective, reciprocal agreements may allow the Member to seek an elected position without it adversely affecting their retirement savings. The issue is that if a reciprocal agreement is set up so that the Member's lifetime pension is not adversely affected, it usually means that the plan suffers additional cost. Or, if the reciprocal agreement is set up to be cost neutral to the plan, it likely will provide little to no value to most Members. Therefore, I recommend that this recommendation be rejected.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. To the motion. Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I actually support this recommendation. I think it -- you know, that's without a lot of knowledge or understanding exactly what the reciprocal arrangement could or should look like, but I think this is another way of trying to encourage people to run for office. And if they knew that their pensions could be brought forward to include the service that they do in this House, then I think it could encourage more people to run for public office. And that's why I would support this. Thanks, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? It looked pretty close. So it's defeated. The motion is defeated.

---Defeated

Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I MOVE that this Assembly recommends that the MLAs be advised as to when they are approaching 60 days within being sworn in so they have time to decide about whether to access the supplementary plan to ensure they do not inadvertently miss the deadline. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, the motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I support this motion.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you To the motion. Member for Frame Lake.

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. So I've been here for two Assemblies, and I can tell the public that this already happens. This is the case. You know, in the orientation Members are made aware of their options for pensions. There's a deadline. You get a reminder. This already happens. But I'm okay with accepting this but I can tell you from practice it already happens. Thanks, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Recommendation 16 speaks to Members leaving politics. I move that this Assembly recommends that Members receive a top-up for every year they were in a position as Speaker, Premier, or Minister regardless of when they served in that position.

And further, that this top-up not exceed the annual basic indemnity at that time.

The Member will receive one month of the Speaker, Premier, or Minister allowance for every year served in any of those positions with the top-up calculated based on the current indemnity allowance paid to a Member holding one of those offices. The time served in any of those positions is to be rounded up to the next full year. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this recommendation relates to the transition allowance that former Members are entitled to when they leave office. While I understand and appreciate the intention of this recommendation, it would make the calculation of the transition allowance unnecessarily complicated and may bring it out of line with the cooling-off period that applies to all Members when they leave office. I think the transition allowance is fine as it is and therefore I recommend defeat of this motion. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you, Member. To the motion.

Some Hon. Members

Question.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion is defeated.

---Defeated

Member for Hay River South.

Rocky Simpson

Rocky Simpson Hay River South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that this Assembly recommends that the word "Premier" be added to any clause in section 79 where reference is made to the Speaker or Minister. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Hay River South.