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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Chair, at this point the regulations -- the last information I had is under both the regulations and the timing was when I was still the Minister of ITI. So I would like to defer to the Minister on that and get a proper update that is up to date. So I know what I have in front of me is that there is a lot of work happening. As I said, I have a lot of information with respect to MARS as I've also been asking some questions about it. And the Member is quite right, that while MARS itself may not have been central to the ongoing negotiations it's part and parcel of it, and it's difficult in general to create an online system and a complex online system when the regulations weren't complete. So that every time there's been some slippage on the regulations, there's slippage on the timing around MARS in addition to the challenges with LTOS. So this has certainly been an IT project that has not gone to timing. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I appreciate the Minister is not the subject matter expert on this and the substantiation for supplementary appropriation is not the same as a project report or a project update. So I apologize if I put her in a spot to provide more information. So I appreciate what she's been able to provide today. MARS is probably the best acronym of our many bad acronyms. So it would be great if we could get this moving forward for more reasons than that. But I do like the acronym.

So if we -- do we know the real costs of this? Because it's been pushed off for a significant period of time. We keep moving it forward. It's tied to another system that we don't have before us. So do we know the real costs, and do we -- have we appropriated enough to complete the successful implementation of MARS by its anticipated date of 2026? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I don't have a final total estimate in front of me. Oh, maybe I do, I take that back.

So at this point, Mr. Chair, looking at a total of $3.7 million for this but that's only on the MARS side. I don't know that that -- that does not include what may be required on LTOS. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

And that's sufficient according to the current specifications of the registry? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, quite frankly, this project has had a number of challenges and has had a number of delays. I can only say that that is the current estimate. Confidence in that estimate, obviously I recognize may be low in the circumstances. I can only commit to -- and I know that my colleague would also be wanting to commit to coming back and keeping people updated. That's probably the best that we can do. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

Thank you. Is the project being built by contractors or being built internally? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

A contractor, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

And has -- thank you. And thank you to the Minister. And has -- is that -- that contract's in place with that amount of money? Yeah, thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There is a contract in place and a contractor involved, the same I believe, for both LTOS and MARS, and they are actively working with the GNWT at this time. As to the currentness of their -- of a cost estimate with them, I can't say. I will confirm with ITI if it's not the numbers that I've provided. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

I know the Minister's generous with commitments so can she commit to getting the LTOS project costs to us as well? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

That'll be with ECC. I will -- that makes sense that we wrap up the two together. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Member from Range Lake.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Range Lake

And finally, so as the two are kind of intrinsically linked, have all the regulatory -- the necessary regulatory steps taken place with I'm assuming the Public Lands Act that are required for the Land Tenure Optimization System? Maybe I won't mention the legislation but are all the regs out of the way for the LTOS Project, or is there still more regulatory change that needs to take place? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Minister Wawzonek.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm not 100 percent certain with respect to LTOS. I think they may still be in drafting. I'll confirm that.