Thank you. I'll go to Minister Wawzonek.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, these are -- this is not -- these are not new. There's a suite of different labour market programs that are delivered on behalf of the government by ECE. There's two, for instance, for employers that help support various training initiatives and the rest target organizations that provide more group-based skills, so not necessarily to an employee specifically but, for instance, community employment officers or career centres. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm going to go to Member from Yellowknife North.

Thank you to the Minister for that. And so my understanding is that the overall goal of this is to increase labour market participation, align skills with labour market needs, create efficient labour markets. Does the funding include tracking of to what extent we're achieving the goals that we're setting out for ourself with specific metrics?

Thank you. I'm going to go to Minister Wawzonek.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm not sure if this specific funding would necessarily cover that work, but there is certainly an annual plan that does outline what is happening on the regional -- on a regional scale for these programs. That's part of ECE's expectation and part of having -- every time there's a contribution agreement, this is where that type of reporting back in does then inform the ECE process in terms of understanding where they're spending these public dollars. There's an annual report that is produced which does take into account performance measures and that it does demonstrate what's coming under the performance measurements plan. So I don't know -- oh, and -- sorry, one last thing, Mr. Chair, I'll add, is that under the labour market transfer agreements with Canada, again because there is also an expectation of reporting in to them, there is also a joint report there as well for over a more extended period that I could certainly, if the Member doesn't have it or doesn't find it online, would be happy to provide. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And so I guess what I'm -- what I'm getting at is we often track the activities that we do but we sometimes miss how effective those activities are at actually achieving the ultimate outcomes that we're trying to get at in terms of increasing labour market participation, creating efficient labour markets. I just -- I wonder if the Minister could either send us some reports or has any insights into whether these programs that have been going on for a number of years have actually made progress in achieving the outcomes that we're working towards and if there's been analysis of whether there's any other activities or ways to achieve those outcomes if in fact what we're doing with this money hasn't brought us further towards the outcomes we're trying to achieve.

Thank you. I want to go to Minister Wawzonek.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, we're in the wrong briefing for me to talk about government renewal, but I share the Member's concern around ensuring that we have a culture of evaluation within the public service in terms of the delivery of programs and services, which is one of the sub-goals of that program is that -- so, for instance, to be very transparent one of the first questions I was asking here when I heard the Member's question is whether or not these labour market programs are actually one of the first to be going through the enhancement -- enhanced evaluations under GRI. At this time, they're not. Maybe that day will come. But in the meantime, the process of evaluation is meant to get at just that. So as for the detail of where we're at in terms of labour market evaluations, that's an ECE question, and I'm confident that they would be more than happy to meet with Members and to talk about some of the labour market initiatives. There's a whole suite of programs as I've said. So thank you.

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I thank the Minister for her frankness and those insights, and I look forward to continued conversations both with the Department of ECE and the government to see what we can do to make these programs even more efficient and effective at achieving the outcomes we're striving towards. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Is there any further comments, general comments from Members? If not, I'm going to continue on here.

Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2023-2024, Department of Education, Culture and Employment, labour development and advanced education not previously authorized, $2,843,000. Does the committee agree?

We're going to continue on. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2023-2024, Department of Education, Culture and Employment, total department not previously authorized, $3,143,000. Is there any questions? Okay, no -- oh okay, yes. All right, I'm going to go to Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to confirm, of course, a nod will do on this end, but we're dealing with one section at a time? Just a -- yeah, okay. So sounds good.

So under the environment management monitoring -- sorry, oh I thought we were on page 4. My page 4 says something different. Okay, we're not on page 4. Okay. For those who read Hansard, we'll wait.

Stay tuned.

Okay, thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures) No. 4, 2023-2024, Department of Education, Culture and Employment, total department not previously authorized, $3,143,000. Does the committee agree?

Okay, thank you. We're going to stop here. Thank you. I want to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Noting the clock, committee members, I will now rise and report progress. Thank you to the Minister and to your witnesses. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the room -- or from the Chamber. Thank you.

There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress. And I want to thank the Minister and your witnesses. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 28-20(1) and Tabled Document 29-20(1) and would like to report progress, with a motion passed. That consideration of Tabled Document 28-20(1) is concluded, and the House concurred to those estimates as amended and that an appropriation bill to be based thereon be introduced without delay. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.