Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll turn that over to ADM Mathison as keeping track of those numbers with the in and out, I'll confuse them for everybody. So I'll just turn it over to her.
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Jeannie Mathison
Thank you, Madam Chair. So tracking of positions is extra complicated with our funding that we get because a number of the positions that we do have in our budget are reflective of time-limited funding, so it comes in and out. So yes, there are 18 positions increased net in this budget for the department. 14 of those are specifically related to the northern Wellness Agreement, which we just renewed for a five-year period. And then there are other ones that are not in this budget that are expected to be added to the budget through the supplementary funding process and next year's budgeting process, shared health priorities being a significant one. That agreement is sunset something March 31st, 2026. And we're just in the stages of finalizing that extension to that agreement for the next few years. So those positions are not yet in here either.
The increase in positions that are not related to third party funded agreements are four, and those are related to funding we got for forced growth and new initiatives. So there's project management for a couple of the initiatives that we're doing that are time limited. So there's three positions that are time limited, and one additional position to fund the supports needed to -- for the 8-1-1 program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And so, I mean, the overall purpose of my questions here are just so we have a clear sense of how much the public service and our healthcare providers, how much the staff workforce is growing or not, like at an overall level. And so I wonder if I can also ask at this time about a similar question for the health and social services authorities. And so, similarly, my understanding is that there are federal agreements sunsetting that we expect to renegotiate, and my understanding was there's about 50 positions in the authorities that we expect to renegotiate and would hopefully be back in there. So even though we see only 13 new net positions showing up at the authorities, is the actual number that we can expect to see more like 63? I wonder if the Minister can comment on that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Jeannie Mathison
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, with agreements set to be signed for 2026-2027, we expect about 45 positions additionally to be added to the budget for the Working Together Shared Health Priorities Agreement, and we expect about another 53 positions related to the Home and Community Care federal agreement that is going to be signed for the next five-year period here imminently. So right now it's showing 13. The 13 increase is offset by -- I believe it's 36 positions that are removed from this budget that have moved to the Housing Corp related to the shelters that transferred between departments, so. But yes, you're right, there are a number of positions not reflected here that will soon be added. Those are the two biggest pots, though, the shared health priorities as well as the home care agreement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, assistant deputy minister. Back to the Yellowknife North Member.
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Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, and given that there's a significant number of positions that are going to disappear from this budget but then just appear again right away in the Housing NWT budget, I just think it's important for people to have a general sense that the overall number of sort of health and social services workers that we're going to be seeing out there is more like 90 or 100 sort of new workers. I think when you total all those up, just to have sort of some perspective on things.
I wanted to ask next, I think there was indication in my notes that some of the sunsets of federal funding could affect funding for frontline workers such as community mental health nurses, addictions nurses, regional public health nurses. Is that funding expected to be restored or renegotiated, or should we expect to see some loss in terms of those types of frontline positions in 2026-2027? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the ADM has stated, the way that the budget is processed, so we don't have the agreement -- we didn't have the Working Together Agreement with Health Canada, and we didn't have the First Nation home and community care signed off by the time that this budget was available. The funding for those positions is until March 31st that were up -- like, that were in the current budget; however, by the time this budget was printed and put together we don't -- like, we have commitment to the working together ongoing funding, the same funding. So those positions, come April 1st, you know, what will happen is once the agreement gets signed, you'll usually see that reflected in a supplementary appropriation the next time that we sit, so. However, there is no -- because the agreements will backdate to April 1st, there is no changing of the positions. So those positions will continue to be there. We're just in the process of signing agreements. They just don't happen when we want them to happen. Thank you.
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Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So that, I think -- I think that gives us assurance that those positions won't be cut, as far as we can tell.
I wanted to ask, because I did see there was a reduction of one position due to the sunset of Public Health Agency of Canada funding, and it was related to hospitals injury reporting and prevention program. So I am wondering if -- if that -- the hospitals injury reporting and prevention program is concluded now or if that's continuing, but I wondered what was accomplished during the term of that position before it has sunsetted. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, that third party funding is currently being renegotiated and that -- there is no change in that position so it will continue. And that goes for many of our tfhird party fundings within our system. So we get our health transfer which funds, you know, and we get our portion of the funding, but then there's all of the different federal agreements, that they have multiple different agreements that they fund us in different ways, so that's the -- like, and I said in my previous statement that's why we have to do this accounting thing every time, every year, it seems like. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, Minister. And in the spirit of time there, I'll recognize one more question, if you do there, to the Member of Yellowknife North.
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Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the Minister helping to explain that. I know that the budgets can get confusing but I think for people to have a clearer sense overall of what's happening is helpful. I'll hopefully get another ten minutes.
But I wanted to start -- touch on -- this is the last line of questioning -- the business plans for HSS around recruitment and retention initiatives for the healthcare workforce. I am noticing on page 24, 25, 26 of the business plan that we have not yet established any targets for employee turnover rates, vacancy rates. Can the Minister explain why we don't have any targets established for improving those things. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes
Yes, thank you. Mr. Chair, right now, we're in the process of putting those measurements in, and that's through the new recruitment strategy. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you to the Minister. We will move on. Did you want to go back on the list there, Member of Yellowknife North? Okay, we shall do that.
The chair recognizes the Member from Frame Lake.
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Julian Morse Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I recognize your generous indulgence of Members' questions. I want to dig into something that dates back to a previous budget but shows as a line item here, and so this one may be a bit of a history lesson that I am hoping the staff can maybe take us through.
So the Health System Investments Agreement is listed in this budget as activities related to climate change and wastewater surveillance in NWT communities, illicit drug toxicity. It has -- this line item has previously been described as funding from Indigenous Service Canada for activities related to improving midwifery services in NWT communities. And that's what I wanted to ask about, was what happened to that funding for midwifery services specifically? How was that spent in previous years; was it carried over? It's been unclear. Thank you.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you to the Member of Frame Lake. Minister. We'll transfer over to the assistant deputy minister. Please, go ahead.
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Jeannie Mathison
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So that line on Health System Investment Agreement, like, I -- yeah, that is -- that is something that we've set up with the federal government to -- as a pathway to fund us for some of those one-time, not necessarily program-specific funding pots that come available. And they were previously adding all of the funding that they had to provide to us under the Northern Wellness Agreement but it was getting confusing under the Northern Wellness Agreement, so we pieced it out and created this separate path under the Health System Investment Agreement, and it is specifically that, for very time-limited sorts of funding that they want to offer to us to do time-limited efforts.
The midwifery, we may have to get a little bit more detail, but the midwifery one, my recollection is that we actually have a carryover on that pot of money right now that we're just trying to determine whether or not it's eligible for future carryover -- it went unspent -- and whether or not we can still use that or whether or not it needs to be returned to the federal government as unspent funds. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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