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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, that's exactly what I was looking to find out, and I appreciate the answer on that. So it sounds like we're going to have to do a bit of commitment for a follow-up there. But in that commitment, I'd appreciate them helping us understand why the funding wasn't spent as well. You know, I've raised midwifery pretty much every sitting since the beginning and, you know, have some constituents who are very passionate about it and so will continue to do so. And so I am just wondering, you know, there was a controversial budget cut a few years ago where midwifery services were cut, and now I am hearing that we are -- potentially lapsed some funding that we could have probably used to fund that and, you know, I plan to save this -- a bit of this for a Members' statement later in the sitting, but I would just note that I attended a great session put on by health and social services staff at the Explorer Hotel -- maybe it was the Nova Hotel. I always get them mixed up. Sorry, it was the Chateau Nova. We went to that and it was all about, you know, removing systemic racism from our healthcare system and building an appropriate healthcare system for Indigenous people around the territory. And I noted that one of the things that they put in there was midwifery and the access to that and access to appropriate Indigenous care. And so I really appreciated them highlighting that but found that it didn't jive with how the department has been rolling out or not rolling out midwifery, and so I found that confusing. So just to get right back to the question, I would appreciate a follow-up on whether the funding lapsed, why it was lapsed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member from Frame Lake. Please go ahead, Minister.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the last couple of years we have continued to -- NTHSSA has continued to advertise over and over again for these positions; however, they've all -- they've gone unfilled so that's the reason why the positions that were -- you know, we had conversations with some of the surrounding communities. They were not interested in this type of a program at this time, some of our smaller Indigenous communities closer to. And so the important thing that we have to make sure is that when we are providing these services that, you know, we can't just tell communities that this is what they need to provide when we can't even staff these positions. So where we struggle with right now is that we are -- I believe even in Hay River and Fort Smith, the numbers of deliveries are going down. You know, the high risk of, you know, the maternal patients that, you know, they have to go into a different facility because -- you know, because of whatever their risk factors are. So, however, I would love to say I would love to put a midwife and a birthing centre in every single community, like, you know, the realistic thing is that we have to take a look at what our patients are. And many of our parents that are birthing nowadays -- and it's not all of them -- but are high risk. And so when we look at this area, we struggle to hire positions in our two current birthing facilities as it is. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister. To the Member of Frame Lake, go ahead, please.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do want to just go back to the Minister's staff. There was a potential commitment on the table, but I haven't heard it specifically referred to. So can staff get back to me with details about the lapse in funding and why it lapsed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Frame Lake. Please go ahead, ADM.

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Jeannie Mathison

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I've just been able to confirm that we did just get approval to carry over the funding, and we're currently proposing to use that funds for -- to explore traditional birth works. That's in process right now and just seeking federal support for that proposal, but we do have approval to carry over the funding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, assistant deputy minister. The Member of Frame Lake.

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Julian Morse

Julian Morse Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's an exciting development so amazed at how fast we've been able to move on this issue in the short ten minutes I've had. So thank you for the detail there. I do appreciate that and will just say, I mean, I am going to continue to advocate for midwifery as I already said, so. I am going to leave it at that for now and maybe cede the floor to another Member and will let you know if I have some further questions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Frame Lake. We shall move on, and the other Member on the list is out. To the Member of Monfwi, did you have any questions? I thought I seen your hands up earlier.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Are we still on revenue summary? When we receive money, it's good, you know. But I see here in the budget there are some -- I don't know if it's sunsetted because it didn't say, you know, agreement to work with -- I see there's quite a few agreements -- agreement was signed with other -- with Canada. So agreement to work together to improve health care for Canadians, there's nothing in the budget for upcoming fiscal year. There's quite a few of those too. Even with First Nation and Inuit Community Care Agreement, there's nothing allocated. So I just wanted to ask the Minister if the Minister can explain why. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Monfwi. Please go ahead, Minister.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, as the federal budget was only announced late in November that before -- before that, we -- you know, and then we begin to work with them to renew these two program areas. And so as of right now, I believe that the funding hasn't changed in either one of those with the federal government. We just are in the process of negotiating it and once those are signed off, I believe they're not -- there's no change in them. We already know what they are; we just have to sign them off now. And then because they expire at the end of March 31st, the current agreements, we have to have the new agreements signed off before they could be added back into the budget, which would come at a later date. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Minister. Member from Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, improving health care, it's very important, especially in the small communities in the Northwest Territories. It's mostly in -- almost all the Indigenous communities across Canada, health care needs to be improved. It's good to know that there's going -- you know, that funding will be renewed, the agreement for the funding will be renewed.

The other one here, capital transfer, a Green and Inclusive Community Building Agreement, that budget is cut in half for the upcoming fiscal year. Can the Minister also explain why that this funding it's -- like going from $15 million to half of that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Monfwi. Please go ahead, Minister.

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, that was the -- that is for the wellness and recovery centre and so through the budgets, as we have needed it, this is a fully, I believe, federal funded capital project and so it's being funded through -- as we can roll out this year what needs -- what's needing to be allocated, and I believe it was over three years until it was completed, and then we -- to open. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister. To the Member of Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Thank you. Okay, there's a decrease for the upcoming fiscal year to Aging with Dignity Funding Agreement. It was down in 2025-2026 and then with the revised estimate, and then now with a -- in the main estimate, it's down a bit to 3.6. Aging with Dignity Funding Agreement, that's very important, especially for people living in small communities in long-term care, etcetera. So if the Minister can explain, is that -- is it due to that -- because of the federal announcement?

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Monfwi. Please go ahead, assistant deputy minister.

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Jeannie Mathison

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The three-year agreement is -- the value of the agreement has not changed. When we put our proposal into the feds on how we wanted to spend the money, we just allocated it a little bit differently over each year, and so that is what's represented there. It's not that any funding has gone down from the federal government. It's just how we have allocated to spend the total value of the agreement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, assistant deputy minister. I'll remind the Member that we're on the activity of administrative and support services, so if you can maintain the questions related to that activity there, please. Please go ahead, Member of Monfwi.

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Jane Weyallon Armstrong

Jane Weyallon Armstrong Monfwi

Okay, so what page are we on, then? 198, okay. I know that with administrative and support services, I don't see in here -- it would have been nice if we can -- if we know the administrative and support services, if it was broken down by regions so then I could see clearly how much is being spent to Tlicho region. You know, like, I am sure you would like to know too, for Sahtu, you know, because all regions are important to us and we do rely heavily on the government program and services. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you to the Member of Monfwi. Minister, do you want to reply?

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Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, I would just refer to the funding to other sources in the appendices. That is where it's broken down to the different authorities. And so I believe if the Member is looking for the Tlicho health authority, TCSA, that would be broken down of what that's allocated there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.