Last in the Legislative Assembly December 1999, as MLA for Yellowknife North
Lost his last election, in 2015, with 21% of the vote.
Statements in the House
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I still have about six minutes here. Mr. Chairman, I agree that the new housing survey will partially address this unequal allotment of units. However, because communities do not receive their total allotment of their needs, it is only based on a percentage, it does not totally address it because five units to Norman Wells or Fort Simpson this year, might be their total allotment. Their total allotment, but if you only take five units out of their total needs that is not the same thing because you are lowering their needs by five units but say if you only get ten percent of your total needs every year, by lowering your needs by five units it might not even knock one unit out of their allotment for next year. If you say if your receive ten units last year when you are only supposed to get five, next year you could have absolutely nothing. That is the way it should be addressed, or you lose a certain amount for a certain amount of years until you make up those five extra units that you have.
Communities, for instance like Dettah, they have absolutely no staff housing units. Are they going to get extra units allotted to them for that? Because they have had no opportunity to be given 11 social housing units like Fort Simpson or Fort Rae, or eight units like Norman Wells.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The proposal to
look at future allotments and a needs survey works for the future, but it does not consider the fact that there have been a small number of communities that have received a large amount of units. Thirty-nine units in total that the vast majority of the other communities in the North have not been able to receive. I would like to ask the appropriate Ministers if they would take that into consideration when they are looking at their new policy because effectively after this is done, Norman Wells, for instance, will have received eight extra units. Fort Simpson will have received 11, Fort Rae will have received 11, Edzo will have received six. Normally those allotments you do not get that many units except over the course of two to three years sometimes. These units have to be taken into consideration in future allotments. I would ask the Ministers to also consider that. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. From this page that I have here, I cannot tell which communities still have units outstanding. I would like to have a list of that. The other thing I would like to know is, how does this government propose to rectify the unfair allotment of units that has occurred, so that all the communities can get a similar amount of allotted units, like the 11 to Fort Simpson and the eight to Norman Wells.
Mr. Chairman, how does the government determine how long these units should stay out there for sale? It is saying that some of these have been transferred since 1996. Why were some transferred right away and there are still some that have not been sold and have not been transferred yet?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we have an indication of when these other ones were transferred, in Norman Wells and Fort Simpson?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On this page there have been 11 units already transferred to Fort Simpson plus another five coming up. Is that correct?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I happen to know that there are several units sitting in Fort Rae empty, and one is valued at $160,000, I believe. If it was selling in Yellowknife, you probably could not get $50,000 for it. I would like to know, how do these people arrive at their prices? How do they come up with their prices?
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I think I will wait to get the other information before we ask for clarification. What the Minister is saying, then, is that in some lucky communities that have a bunch of overpriced staff housing that they cannot sell, communities with no housing market and no hope of reselling a house if you buy it an overinflated price, if you happen to be lucky enough to live in that community, you can increase your amount of units plus your budget through the back door periodically. Is that what I am hearing?
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. First of all, this page here does not really tell us too much. It talks about regions. It does not say a word about any communities, unless there is something on the back. The list that the Minister had read out indicated the exact communities in which units had been transferred. Perhaps he could read it out so we can write it down if he cannot give it out.
Madam Chairperson, the other thing I wanted to know. For these units, five units to Fort Simpson and four units to Norman Wells, are there additional operations and maintenance dollars transferred to operate those units, or does the housing authority have to use their current dollars to operate those units? Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I am not disagreeing with the fact that all the various types of clients should have their needs met. What I am disagreeing with is the way these communities are getting an extra four and five units after the fact and not going according to the formula that is supposed to be used. The other thing I wanted to ask about, but I do not think we are going to get anywhere with that, the Minister had indicated that policy was developed with the Social Programs Committee or something to that effect. Could he indicate exactly when the Social Programs Committee reviewed that particular policy and agreed that it was the proper way to proceed? Thank you.
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