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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to briefly comment that we do welcome that advice from the standing committee on finance. Ever since this department first appeared before that committee to examine the capital budget, we have been working with DPW on precisely the approaches that the chairman has suggested --smaller scale, simpler, more cost effective approaches, to these hamlet offices, in particular.

I am pleased to report that we are not getting resistance from the Department of Public Works. They are co-operating with us. Maybe today it is a little early to say precisely what we are going to be doing in Hall Beach and Arctic Bay, the communities which were pointed out, but I do believe that we will be taking some innovative approaches there and if we can save some funds -- and I welcome the opportunity to do that while still meeting the basic standards -- then this will be of great satisfaction to me and I know, to the standing committee on finance.

I want to also mention in that connection that we have noted the strong recommendation on the Arviat water improvements, and this would be one way of advancing that project; is if we can identity some funds through new approaches to the hamlet offices, then we can apply those funds to another worthwhile priority, such as advancing the Arviat supply system. I do not want to get into detail, I guess the time would be when we get to the item, but this advice is well taken by this department and DPW, Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

General comments. Mr. Arngna'naaq.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to add to some points that were made by my colleague Mr. Arvaluk, in talking about the snow problems we have in the Keewatin and the kind of vehicles that are purchased by the government.

In speaking to the hamlet workers in my communities, one of the workers was pointing out that there was a need to purchase a front-end loader to remove snow in the wintertime, to clear the roads. The employees of the hamlet were making recommendations on the kind of vehicle they would like to see purchased for that community. Because of a government standard, I guess it must be across the Territories, they had to purchase a particular type of front-end loader which could be switched into a fork-lift or similar vehicle. Because of that the initial cost of purchasing that type of vehicle was lower than the recommendation that was being made by the hamlet council.

In the first year of operation of that vehicle there had to be major repairs made to the vehicle, because the conditions we have in the Keewatin Region are such that they require a particular type of vehicle to remove the snow. I think when the government sets standards for the Territories they must consider different areas of the Territories that will be affected by the quality of service that will be provided for those regions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Zoe.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, my view on the budget is that the basic community infrastructure has to be in place. I notice that a number of projects from a previous year have been delayed and carried forward this year. Why have these projects not gone ahead in the previous year? Is it because we have too many projects being done by the department? Especially the basic things like fire protection, water supply and so forth. These are essential services. I have always maintained that these types of projects are essential. But I do not know why the departments are postponing some of these essential services. Could the Minister respond to that?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Minister.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We did give the standing committee on finance a list of the carry -overs from last year and the reasons. There is a reason in every case, such as completely unexpected bid results. In one case the contractor got suddenly ill, and in another case we had a weather problem and winter came early. We do not delay important projects capriciously. I will provide more detail if you wish, but I think in every case there has been a factor causing those delays. Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Zoe.

Municipal Capital Assistance Policy

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Zoe, yesterday I questioned the Minister in regard to the municipal capital assistance policy that was developed by the department. It is in relation to capital. He indicated it is in front of the government. Why was it not brought forward to Cabinet earlier?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Minister.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Mr. Chairman, I think the Member is incorrectly assuming that I had not brought the policy forward at the first opportunity. As soon as I was appointed this fall I realized that the issue was outstanding and had not been dealt with, for whatever reasons, by the previous government. I can assure the honourable Member that I have moved forward to consider that O and M and capital financing formula, which is a complicated matter, as quickly as I could. I do not know if it is proper for me to comment on what the previous government did, but this Minister has been making it a priority. It is a complex matter, and it has been before cabinet for some time now. I do not want to raise expectations about when it is going to be dealt with, but I want to assure the Member that it is a priority with me and I am trying to get it resolved as soon as possible, given the heavy workload in cabinet these days. Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Mr. Zoe.

Motion To Express Displeasure With Timing Of Minister's Appointments To Workers' Compensation Board, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, listening to the comments of my other colleagues, I concur with them. For instance, the water supply improvements in Arviat. We notice that the problem has been there for quite a while. It seems to me that the department has not moved as quickly as they should have in terms of getting adequate water improvements for that particular community. Mr. Chairman, maybe it is appropriate at this time, under general comments, to move a motion to that effect.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, I move that the committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs advance the Arviat water supply improvements to 1992-93. Mahsi.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Before I rule on the motion, the copies will be circulated. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, I think my motion is straightforward. I think a number of Members have made comments to that effect. I think the department is also aware of the urgency for this particular project to move ahead. I would encourage my colleagues to support me on this particular motion. Mahsi.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Arngna'naaq.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

I just want to make a few comments to the motion, just to add to what Mr. Zoe is saying. I would also like to add to what I was saying in the fall session on the water supply in Arviat.

I was speaking to a person in Arviat today, and he was saying that at least once a year they have to clean out the bottom of their water tanks because of the grunge that builds up in the water tanks. He said that the next time I am in Arviat, and would like to see some minnows and other bugs that go into the water tanks, he would be willing to show me that, as well.

He also indicated that at this point there is a project being run by the hamlet council to supply ice to the community for those people who do not have snowmobiles to go and pick up the ice -- it is a 15-minute drive from the community -- and they are paying people with snowmobiles to go out and get ice for them. This is a very strong issue in the community of Arviat, and I hope that everybody will be in favour of the motion. Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

Mr. Zoe.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one more item that I would like to touch on. The department knows that each municipality usually conducts a five-year plan for priorities for their community. Some of the items that they prioritize in their capital plan do not necessarily fall under the department, and I would encourage the department to co-ordinate between the other departments the needs of various communities.

I have a situation where the department is planning a community gym for the community of Snare Lake in 1993-94. The local education authority has also requested to the Department of Education that they want a facility of some sort attached to the school. To me it appears that the departments are not talking to each other in regard to capital needs of a community. I am just indicating to the Minister and his department officials that each community usually has a five year capital plan. Could the department try to be the lead department to co-ordinate between the other departments when they are doing their capital? Mahsi.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Todd.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Chairman, could you permit us to move forward with four or five appropriate resolutions prior to going on a line-by-line basis with the budget, to expedite things?

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Does the committee agree?