This is page numbers 85 - 125 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Members Present

Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Hon. Michael Ballantyne, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Koe, Mr. Lewis, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Hon. Rebecca Mike, Hon. Richard Nerysoo, Mr. Ng, Mr. Patterson, Hon. John Pollard, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Hon. John Todd, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer
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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, later today, I will table three documents. I am tabling them at the same time because they are all closely related.

The first is called "Building Strategy for...

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

This House will now come back to order. I would like to apologize to the Minister for stopping your speech. Would you continue, Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

So, we'll roll the clock back again.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, later today, I will table three documents. I am tabling them at the same time because they are all closely related.

The first is called "Building Strategy for Dealing with Violence in the Northwest Territories". The second is a proposed draft of a declaration by Legislative Assembly on family violence. The third is the response of the Department of Justice to the gender equality review report.

There's a growing awareness across the north and across this country, that violence against women and children is a plague in our society. In the north, the incidence is so high that it deserves to be recognized as one of the major barriers to building a healthy northern society.

The Standing Committee on Finance recognized the importance of this issue. That is why they recommended in their review of the 1992-93 estimates, that the Department of Justice, on behalf of the Government of the Northwest Territories, seriously address the issue of violence in the north.

It is my hope that the document, Building a Strategy for Dealing with Violence, will encourage more discussion of this important issue in this Assembly. I look forward to the opportunity to discuss this matter at greater length.

The document looks at the extent and nature of violence in the north, and discusses elements of a broad approach to dealing with violence.

The document examines how violence can never be ended merely by escalating the response of the criminal justice system. The justice system can and must be improved, but one of the major points of this document is that response to violence requires the involvement of all members of society. Change will come about when all of us assume a degree of responsibility for this problem.

Leadership in assuming responsibility for facing this problem can be shown by Members of this House. In these days of increased public cynicism toward politicians and the political process, it is crucial that the public be able to look up to the Members of this House as individuals who are accountable, who take their responsibilities seriously and who provide a positive example. In short, that we, the Members of this House, demonstrate leadership.

This brings me to the second document to be tabled today. It is a proposed declaration of principle on family violence. We are asking each Member of the Legislative Assembly to consider formally adopting the principle of zero tolerance to violence and committing, personally, to getting rid of family violence by the year 2000. In addition, we suggest that leaders throughout all of northern society be invited then to make this commitment.

This declaration of commitment is particularly important because the majority of people in positions of power, authority and trust are men, and it is men, with rare exceptions, who are the abusers.

The declaration will provide this Assembly with a way of indicating that it is serious about family violence. We can lead the way, and we must, as leaders, encourage communities and other organizations to follow our example and embrace zero tolerance to violence.

The elimination of family violence requires a wide range of actions but at the end of the day, ending family violence requires changing our attitudes which allow it to continue.

The third document is a response to the report of the special advisor on gender equality. The report entitled, The Justice House, was submitted in May 1992, and tabled in the House the following month. It was discussed in committee of the whole last December.

The report contains 90 recommendations on how to improve the administration of justice to make it more responsive to the needs of women. As women come into contact with the justice system most often as victims of violence, this is the focus of many of the recommendations of the special advisor.

The document contains a general response and action plan and a listing of what is being done with each of the recommendations. Appendix B to this document contains a recommendation by recommendation response to the report.

Within the constraints imposed by the fiscal context in which we find ourselves, I am happy to say that we have made some headway in addressing the recommendations in the report.

Many of the recommendations concern matters that are beyond the responsibility of the Department of Justice and we continue to work with other agencies to encourage the implementation of the recommendations. Within the department, a number of legislative changes have been put on the table. In addition, the maintenance enforcement program is now better resourced. And we continue to look for ways to address the needs of victims by supporting the provision of services at the community level. For example, an interagency community-based victims' services group has recently set up shop in Iqaluit with assistance from the department.

Of course, much remains to be done, and we will continue our efforts to improve the administration of justice so that it better serves the needs of everyone.

Mr. Speaker, whether we are talking about a strategy to deal with violence or about making the justice system better, it comes down to a question of respect, respect for oneself and for others. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as Minister of Renewable Resources, I'd like to table, at the appropriate time today, the 1991-92 Environmental Rights Act annual report. The report includes descriptions of all applications, prosecutions, actions and convictions under the act for 1991 and 1992.

In the first two years following implementation of the Environmental Rights Act, the Government of the Northwest Territories has received one request for access to information and two requests for investigations. The Department of Renewable Resources, in conjunction with the Department of Justice and Municipal and Community Affairs, provided a response to the application for access to information on the Yellowknife forward operating location.

The Department of Renewable Resources has completed the investigation into sulphur dioxide and arsenic emissions from Giant Yellowknife Mines. The report of the findings of this investigation was released to the public in July, 1993.

The other request for an investigation was not accepted, as the request was not made in accordance with the requirements of the act.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Renewable Resources, in cooperation with other departments, coordinated the development of procedures for the implementation of the act. The procedures clarify the steps in applying for and administering access to information and/or investigation requests. The procedures are available in all MLA constituency offices and at the Department of Renewable Resources office. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Nerysoo.

Minister's Statement 12-12(4): Heritage Policies
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Community organizations play an essential role in preserving, portraying and promoting the heritage of the Northwest Territories. To ensure that assistance is provided to community heritage groups in a consistent, fair and equitable manner, and to help maintain the cultural heritage of the Northwest Territories, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment has recently developed four policies.

The heritage services policy defines the heritage programs administered by Education, Culture and Employment and the relationship between the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre and community-based heritage programs.

The Northwest Territories archives policy provides direction for the administration of the NWT archives, particularly the management of non-government records.

The collections disposal policy allows for appropriate and sensitive disposal of government-owned library and heritage collections, including disposal through repatriation. The heritage grants and contributions policy establishes the criteria and standards necessary to assess applications for financial assistance, equitably.

Mr. Speaker, these four policies have recently been approved by Cabinet and I am providing Members of the Assembly with copies for their information. I believe these policies provide a clear public statement of government's commitment to heritage in the Northwest Territories.

In concluding, Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the Standing Committee on Finance for raising the matter of the policies. I hope the new policies will be responsive to their concerns about a lack of policy to respond to the matter of heritage in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier.

Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would like to notify that the Honourable Don Morin will be absent from the House today and possibly tomorrow to attend meetings with the federal Minister of Housing. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements.

Chronology Of Events And Appreciation To Staff
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I sincerely regret the events of the past few days. It is unfortunate that my explanation of the events have been interpreted to mean I intentionally misled this House. Mr. Speaker, I, at no time, had this intention, but I realize I did make some mistakes in dates in reviewing my calendar. However, since my colleagues feel that my words do convey the impression that I was not telling the truth, I must accept the consequences.

I hope that the tabling of the chronology of events will assist all Members in understanding what actually transpired. My main concern is to see that a reasonable solution is found for the problems in Iqaluit that initiated this whole discussion, and any other issues can now take a back seat. I look forward to working with the ordinary Members in addressing the concerns of our citizens and I am happy that I can now bring forward concerns on behalf of my constituents in the public forum. Today is a new challenge.

Mr. Speaker, could I ask for an extension of time?

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Yes.

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Mr. Speaker, I would like to say thank you to the members of my staff for the dedication and support they have shown me, especially Miss Michele Irving, my executive secretary, Miss Cathy Ayalik, my executive assistant and Anna Koonoo, my executive assistant trainee. I would also like to thank the staff in the departments of Municipal and Community Affairs and Renewable Resources who have worked so hard, not only on my behalf, but on behalf of all the people of the Northwest Territories.

In particular, I would like to thank the Deputy Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Joe Handley; and, Mr. Al Menard, Deputy Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. I very much appreciate your dedication and your good counsel. I would also like to thank the many political staff who have served me so well over the past years, starting with Laurie Nowakowski, Vivian Squires, John Stephenson, Ernie Comerford and Anne Todd. Also the deputy ministers whom I had the pleasure of working in the past, Mr. Hal Gerein, Mr. Andrew Gamble, Mr. Jim Bourque, Mr. Art Sorensen, and Mr. Dave Porter. Qujannamiik.

I will carry with me the memories of many good things we have been able to accomplish by working together for the common

good of our people, the people of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Thebacha.

Medical Examination User-fees For Seniors
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as a Member I am concerned about the policy that was developed last June and announced by the Department of Health. The policy I'm referring to, Mr. Speaker, is with regard to medical examination on user-fees for seniors. The policy institutes a user-pay system for annual medical check-ups. This policy, once again, is setting up the Department of Health to fail in considering long-term ramifications of their policies in favour of short-term gain.

My concern, Mr. Speaker, is for the long-term effects that this policy will have on the health and well-being of our elders. Our elders are one of our most valuable resources and have a substantial role to play in shaping the future of the territories.

This government is quick to assure the people of the Northwest Territories that our elders are valued, respected and their voices heard. Yet, at a life stage when accessible health care is the most important, the Department of Health is refusing to provide medical examinations free of cost unless the individual has waited at least two years since the last check-up. This is not acceptable.

Mr. Speaker, in my observation, elders in the Northwest Territories are already often reluctant to seek medical advice. Serious risks to life and health, such as lung cancer or heart disease, remain undetected because our senior citizens hesitate to report a concern and to use the resources of our health care system until the symptoms become too painful to ignore. Seniors do not want to be a burden.

Although seniors are simply not aware of potential risks, there is no doubt that seniors will much more likely hesitate when they know the department will levy a fee for a medical check-up. While I understand that this fee may be waived if the elders can present sufficient grounds, this should not be their concern. There are elders who are even reluctant to provide sufficient grounds due to their pride.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue with my statement.

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to continue. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Member for Thebacha.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you. This approach by the Department of Health sends a strong message to our elders that their health care is not a priority. It is also likely to cost this government more in the long run through the treatment of illnesses that are not presented at the first opportunity.

It is also very disturbing that the Department of Health does not appear to have any appreciation for the health education benefits that elders receive through an accessible health care system. The education and interpersonal support provided to elders in my constituency has been very important to them, and both the emotional and physical health benefits are immeasurable. Many elders are worried now that this will all be lost.

I fear by charging a fee to those in the Northwest Territories whose health is most fragile, the Department of Health is truly risking the well-being of those upon whom we depend for advice and guidance, and to whom we owe a great debt. Surely our elders deserve more from us and from this government. I'm requesting that the Minister of Health reconsider this ill-conceived policy. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis.

Alternative Uses Of New Legislature Building
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We've been in this Assembly now for a few days. Like anything that's new, it takes a bit of getting used to. It's like having a pair of new shoes, it takes a while for you to break them in.

My statement today, Mr. Speaker, is to recommend to the Speaker that he recommends ways in which this new building could be used during times the Assembly is not in session. Clearly, no one wishes to have us compete with the private sector in the use of space, but there are many things that could be done here in both summer and in winter. Many of us have viewed this capital site for the museum, the visitors' centre and the Assembly as a natural focal point for the capital city. But, far more important than that, Mr. Speaker, of far greater significance, is that this is a reflection of what brings Northwest Territorial residents together.

I'd like, Mr. Speaker, at the very earliest opportunity to establish a volunteer advisory committee to develop some policies and guidelines for a fuller use of the building, but in keeping with the dignity of its function as a legislature. This was done in the case of the museum many years ago, long before it was occupied. When it was completed, there were clear policies on access, donations, acquisitions, public use, exhibitions and so on. The Speaker shouldn't be required to make decisions on the use of the facility without some guidelines and policies.

There are, I believe, members of the building society and many people who routinely travel in and out of Yellowknife who would be very happy, I'm sure, so assist the Speaker on this matter. It should not be left simply to the MSB to make these decisions. Maybe this group could advise the board, but it should be people who have been here a long time, who come in and out of the city and, at no expense to the public, would be prepared to advise you on how we could make better use of this wonderful place. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Congratulating Mrs. Dora Grandjambe
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as a Member of this Legislature for the Sahtu I'd like to recognize today, Mrs. Dora Grandjambe who is the North Slavey interpreter/translator with the language bureau. She is the first Dene to be certified by the Canadian Translators and Interpreters Council. This is a federation of provincial and territorial organizations formed in 1970 to represent the profession at the federal and international levels. This federation is also a member of the International Federation of Translators.

Mrs. Grandjambe, who wrote the translation exam in September of this year, is now certified under this international body, to be able to translate written documents from English to North Slavey. Originally from the community of Fort Good Hope, Mrs. Grandjambe has been one of the North Slavey interpreter/translators with the language bureau in Yellowknife since 1990. All of us who know her, including her fellow workers and colleagues, her family and many friends, want to recognize her achievement today and also to encourage her to continue in the good work that she's doing. I thank you for giving me the time to do this today. Mahsi.

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