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Return To Question 70-12(4): Dm's And Department's Advice On Iqaluit Situation
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the Minister informed us of the decision he had made and the best course of action to take, or he was taking. The other options, or if there were options at the time, we were advised of the decision the Minister took. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I'm not referring to advice given by the Minister. This was a grave matter, I presume the Premier would agree. A matter not to be taken lightly, especially the week before an Assembly session and a Cabinet review. I'd like to ask the Premier again, did the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and the deputy minister -- who is ultimately accountable to the Premier -- advise against the option of dissolving the council of the town of Iqaluit?

Supplementary To Question 70-12(4): Dm's And Department's Advice On Iqaluit Situation
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, at the time, the Minister advised of the best course of action he thought should be taken. The Minister, upon his familiarity with the subject over a number of years, took that course of action. The other options were disregarded because that option was the desired option and what the Minister felt was the appropriate option at this time. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I'm sure the Premier is aware that in the November 19 issue of Nunatsiaq News, the deputy minister of MACA -- who was appointed by the Premier and is ultimately accountable to the Premier -- is quoted as saying that his department had nothing to do with Cabinet's decision. The action Cabinet took was a "surprise" to him and that "we didn't recommend it." Is this an accurate description of the advice given by the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs who had been working intensively on this issue, according to the chronology, since 1987, and certainly intensively in recent months. Is this the advice given by the Department of Municipal Affairs on this issue, not to dissolve the council? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 70-12(4): Dm's And Department's Advice On Iqaluit Situation
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

I'd like to remind Members that Ministers can't be expected to confirm or deny the validity of newspaper articles. Having said that, Madam Premier, if you like to respond to the question.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I was just going to say the same thing. I can't confirm or express an opinion on a newspaper article. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Your final supplementary, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, then my question to the Premier is, on such an important matter -- the dissolution of the second largest municipality in the Northwest Territories -- in considering the matter and in considering how to advise the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs who the Premier has already said sought the advice of Cabinet, did the Cabinet seek advice, on such an important matter, from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs who have been intensely involved with this issue in making their decision? Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the Minister represented the department. The Minister is in charge of the department and the Minister advised us the course of action he felt -- in the best of his ability in dealing with the issue over a long period of time -- he would take. That was the advice, or not even the advice, but that is what he indicated or he said was the direction he was going to take. The Minister is responsible and I know he was dealing with this issue for a long period of time. I believe at some point in time we have to take what the Minister feels is the best course of action. The Minister represented the situation over a period of time, and at the time he told us what he was going to do. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Zoe.

Question 71-12(4): Reason For Iqaluit Sao Being Replaced
Item 5: Oral Questions

November 23rd, 1993

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that the first action that the administrator who was appointed to the town of Iqaluit was to dismiss the current SAO, or senior administrative officer. Mr. Speaker, this action suggests that the administrator is perceived to have been the problem. My question to the Minister, or to the Premier, or to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs is, if the SAO was the problem why weren't efforts made to have the SAO replaced by council as a condition of the approval of the debenture refinancing proposal?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, we acknowledge there was a problem, and I believe the chronology would show as well, there were difficulties that we have had with the administrative arrangements of the town of Iqaluit. The Minister responsible at that time was also taking into consideration that problem when he made his decision. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Speaker, I realize the former Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs is not in the House, but it has always been the practice of MACA to work with elected officials to take every possible step to solve problems with municipalities even before terminating an elected official. I am wondering why that option wasn't taken by the Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs.

Supplementary To Question 71-12(4): Reason For Iqaluit Sao Being Replaced
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the whole issue of the financial problem of Iqaluit has been going on since 1987. The Minister responsible felt he had taken every opportunity with his department to resolve the situation, other than the final action he took. I believe the work that has been done with the department can show there was a lot of effort to try to help the community to resolve those issues. I believe what may have transpired...I trusted the Minister, because of the seriousness of the situation, that all the avenues were exhausted. This is why the past Minister decided to take that action. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Speaker, with the agreement of the mayor and town council, wouldn't it have been possible to have the public administrator appointed, replacing the SAO, but at the same time preserving the elected mayor and council? Wouldn't you

agree that would have been one of the options available to the previous Minister?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would assume that might have been one of the options. But my understanding is that all the areas of trying to resolve the problem were taken over a number of years. The Minister probably looked at other options, but he decided that the situation was such that he should remove the council. Mr. Speaker, I would assume the Minister would have looked at all the options over a number of years before taking this final course of action.