Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Allooloo.
Debates of Nov. 26th, 1993
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Further Return To Question 103-12(4): Capital Improvements To The Cape Dorset Airport
Question 103-12(4): Capital Improvements To The Cape Dorset Airport
Item 5: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today, the Minister responsible for Education corrected the record. I just want to confirm what he said yesterday, "If the situation where the student/teacher ratio is higher than what is agreed to in the collective agreement, certainly we would respond." Mr. Speaker, my question is, even though this might not be in the collective agreement, would the Minister respond to the situation in Pond Inlet? Thank you.
Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
Item 5: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Nerysoo.
Return To Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, just to reiterate the point I made earlier, the whole matter of the teacher/pupil ratio is not a matter under the collective agreement. In terms of responding to the need teachers, that is done on a normal basis after the calculations of the numbers of students in the school at the end of October or mid-November and, based on policy, we will respond accordingly.
I will also, Mr. Speaker, be making a statement in the House about the whole matter so there is an understanding of how this works. I will talk about how the calculations for the need for teachers works and the requirements that we have to meet generally.
Return To Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
Question 104-12(4): Overcrowding In Pond Inlet School
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Antoine.
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Item 5: Oral Questions
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Renewable Resources. In the Fort Simpson area, the band there has a resource management group that is looking into all the resources in their traditional area. I'm told that the Department of Renewable Resources had issued a timber license to a sawmill company in that area. There is a great concern on the part of people in the traditional area. They don't agree with that license. They want to deal with resource management comprehensively before they start getting into logging. I would like to ask the Minister responsible, if it is indeed true that Renewable Resources have issued a timber licence in that Martin Hills area near Fort Simpson. Thank you.
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Minister Kakfwi.
Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, the timber licence was issued around October 1, by the Department of Renewable Resources.
Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
I would like to ask the Minister if the concerns of the people in the band who's traditional area is Martin Hills, if they were consulted before this timber license was issued. I say this because there was a petition issued by all the people who use that area traditionally, that they didn't want any logging to go on in that area. I would like to know if they were consulted. Mahsi.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I understand, from the department that letters were sent out following a request by a company or business to undertake some logging in the Martin Hills area. Letters were sent out informing the different groups and organizations in Fort Simpson. There was objection from the Dene band, but none of the other groups indicated any opposition, at the time. This is my recollection from the information I have reviewed recently.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you. So, it's the position of the Minister responsible and the government that the aboriginal people who traditionally use their land -- even though their objections to logging have been voiced -- doesn't mean anything. It's their land and if they have objection to it, their position should be taken into consideration. I would like to ask the Minister responsible if that's the case. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, what I've asked is to review the legislation that binds this government in dealing with timber licensing. I understand it's viewed as rather archaic and not at all the type of legislation we should feel compelled to be bound under at this time. I've asked the department, two days ago, if they would come forward with some recommendations about the type of changes that should be made under this legislation, with a view to sitting down with the MLA from the Deh Cho and other parties as well, to see if we can make some changes to the legislation that is politically more plausible to all Members, but also something that, I think, we can set up a process to make sure that the interests of everyone, particularly aboriginal people, are given the weight they should. I understand, under this present legislation it does not do that.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Your final supplementary, Mr. Antoine.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you. The Minister made reference to policies. As an aboriginal person involved in this institution, I know a lot of policies were made a long time ago, when we were not involved. Many of these policies and regulations didn't take into consideration our views at that time. Many of those regulations have to be changed today. I'd like to ask the Minister if the timber license that was issued on October 2, could be held until we've cleared this up because we're heading into some problems if we don't. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, again in the brief time I've had this department, I understand the legislation allows for the issuing of timber licenses and allows for appeal if a license is not issued. Once a license is issued, there is no recourse for the government or any other party to respond in any way to terminate the validity of a license. This is why I've asked the department to come to me in the next week or so with some suggestions so we can sit down with the MLA from the Deh Cho, and certainly other Members and parties, to look at ways in which we could try to resolve this situation and prevent others from happening in the future.
Further Return To Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
Question 105-12(4): Issuance Of Timber Licences Near Fort Simpson
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Dent.
Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
Item 5: Oral Questions
November 25th, 1993
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Transportation. Mr. Speaker, on Wednesday, the Minister told us how successful the Department of Transportation has been at increasing northern and local content in transportation contracts. I think all Members welcome programs which increase the number of jobs for northerners. However, Mr. Speaker, as the Minister noted in his statement, there is often a premium paid for some of the approaches taken, such as negotiated contracts. While there may be support for this approach, we've never heard in this House what those premiums might be. I'd like to ask if the Minister will agree to table a report this session, outlining the details of the failures he referred to in his statement.
Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
Item 5: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Todd.
Return To Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Return To Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
Question 106-12(4): Successes/failures Of Negotiated Contracts
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.