Debates of Dec. 6th, 1993

This is page numbers 431 - 469 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Premier's Absence From The House

Member's Statement Re Condolences To Families Of Those Killed In Plane Crash Near Tuktoyaktuk

Member's Statement Re Condolences To Family Of Person Killed In Fire In Rankin Inlet

Member's Statement Re Condolences To Families And Friends Of Those Killed In Plane Crash Near Tuktoyaktuk

Recognition Of Pages From Fort Providence

Report Of Official Languages Commissioner

Project Surname

GNWT's Handling Of Canada/nwt Languages Agreement

Elders' Birth Certificates

Attendance At Geo-science Forum

Further Return To Oral Question 120-12(4): GNWT Involvement In Keeping The Circle Strong In Northern Communities Conference

Further Return To Oral Question 102-12(4): Quality Of Water On The Mackenzie River System

Maintenance Positions, Sanikiluaq

Change Of Name Procedures

Tabling Of Guardianship And Trusteeship Act

Review Of Languages Commissioner's Report

Review Of South Slave Divisional Board's Terms Of Reference

Status Of Alcohol And Drug Consultant's Report

Examine Guardianship Act In Detail

Status Of Payment Of Payroll Tax By Federal Government

Payroll Tax Retroactive To July 1, 1993

Locations Of Units Sold Under Staff Housing Strategy

Handling And Transportation Of Firearms

Success Of Payroll Tax

Report On Western Constitutional Steering Committee Proceedings

Fire And Liability Insurance Carried On Government Units

GNWT Contribution Towards Road, Fort Chipewyan

Requirement For Payment By Hunters And Trappers For Facs

Availability Of Tep Students' Incentive Loans To Others

Non-payment Of Payroll Tax By Union

Actions To Alleviate Fraud In GNWT

Written Question 24-12(4): Language Commissioner's Travel List

Written Question 25-12(4): Bosco Homes Contracts And/or Contributions

Written Question 26-12(4): Government Buildings Written Off After Fires

Item 9: Petitions

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

Independent Review Of Triple Designation Of River Ridge Facility

Adopting Members' Conduct Guidelines

Legislatures Recommendation To The Electoral District Boundaries Commission

Appearances Of Witnesses Before Committee Of The Whole When Dealing With Family Violence In The Nwt

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

To Adopt Recommendation 5

To Adopt Recommendation 6

To Adopt Recommendation 7

To Adopt Recommendation 8

Committee Report 8-12(4): Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions Final Report On The Elimination Of The Highway Transport Board

To Adopt Recommendation 1

To Adopt Recommendation 2

To Adopt Recommendation 3

To Adopt Recommendation 4

To Adopt Recommendation 1

To Adopt Recommendation 2

To Adopt Recommendation 3

To Adopt Recommendation 4

To Adopt Recommendation 5

Committee Report 5-12(4): Report On Tabled Document 145-12(3): Legislative Action Paper On The Workers' Compensation Act

To Adopt Recommendation 1

To Adopt Recommendation 2

To Adopt Recommendation 3

To Adopt Recommendation 4

To Adopt Recommendation 5

To Adopt Recommendation 6

To Adopt Recommendation 7

To Adopt Recommendation 1

To Adopt Recommendation 2

To Adopt Recommendation 3

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand the traditional harvesters, artists, carvers and other occupations as trying to indicate those who do not fit under the WCB scheme. Would those include the seamstress, the housewife who makes parkas and souvenirs for the tourists and are participating in the home income, the home wage? I'm not talking about the homemakers who are cooking and everything they are doing for their own families, I'm talking about those who are selling their products for the purpose of helping with family income. I hope I understand it that way.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Arngna'naaq.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Mr. Chairman, when the committee met and discussed the area of traditional harvesters, artists, carvers and other occupations, there were a number of thoughts about what a traditional harvester, artist or carver is. The definition of each varied according to the presentation we received. In fact, the committee itself was divided in the description of what a traditional harvester was, where the definition of a traditional harvester begins, or for an artist or carver, where that definition would come in. We did not want to limit or restrict the Minister in defining what other occupations would be. It becomes difficult to say that this is where we begin to say these people will be covered by the act. If we leave people out, it makes it difficult to administer. Therefore, this recommendation leaves it open at the Minister's discretion.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I like this recommendation. However, I just want to caution that the recommendation leaves too much to the Minister. I don't want to have a Minister, when he is further investigating the other programs for guaranteed income, have a narrow approach to the type of recommendation because I believe the recommendation has good spirit and means well. I don't want the government to start narrowing it down and starting saying, you didn't specifically mention that. I think, hopefully, this will be recognized on its own merit and spirit. Thank you.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. To the motion. Mr. Lewis.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

I have no difficulty in supporting the motion. I understand why it is worded the way it is. If you decide to describe in great detail what should be covered, then there is a danger that you will leave somebody out that you haven't thought about. Therefore, the word "other" may cover somebody who is not a sewer or who doesn't carve, but does something else. The danger with making a list of all the things you think should be done, is you can always leave somebody out, then that person wouldn't be covered. Instead of narrowing it, you are, in fact, broadening it to give that possibility the chance of being covered by not making an exhaustive list of things. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. To the motion.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 70-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 5, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Arngna'naaq.

Committee Motion 71-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 6, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is the sixth motion that I would like to make. I move that this committee recommend that the Workers' Compensation Act be amended to clearly state the fiduciary obligation of board members for the management of the fund.

Committee Motion 71-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 6, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. The motion is on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 71-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 6, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 71-12(4): To Adopt Recommendation 6, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Arngna'naaq.