This is page numbers 809 - 837 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was road.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Are they flexible in terms of the operations, or does it depend on the amount of traffic? How are they set and are they negotiated in the contract with the various ferry operators?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, they are individually negotiated. Much of it is contingent upon the volume of traffic, et cetera. It is a fairly flexible approach to hours of operation, I believe.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mahsi. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

If customers in a community want to extend or change hours on a specific weekend, is that negotiable? Can that be done?

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

You have to remember, Mr. Chairman, that we are under contractual agreements with contractors to run the ferries. I would suspect that like a pilot of an airplane, a pilot of a boat has to work within certain hours. It would all be contingent, I suspect, upon what back-up crews they have, et cetera. I am not sure how much flexibility we would have. Mr. Gamble could probably answer that more directly that I can.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Gamble. Okay, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I will give an example. In the Delta, every June or July, there is the midway lake festival and it is a 24 hour festival in the foothills. There is a great deal of traffic from Inuvik and Fort McPherson which has to use both crossings, but the main one is the Peel River crossing, and it closes at midnight. There does not seem to be any flexibility to extend those hours. As I say, it is at times like that when there is a high volume of traffic that warrants some consideration. I wonder how or if this can happen, and if hours can be extended if you know before hand.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do not see any difficulty when you have a unique situation like that, such as a special event which is going to generate a lot of traffic. I think the only condition I would suggest is that we be given sufficient notice so we can organize it properly. I do not anticipate a problem there. If it has been in the past, I am sure we can issue a directive to imply that. I would say the principle condition would be to have good advance notice so we can make the appropriate arrangements, but I do not see a problem.

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Marine services, total O and M, $4.019 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Highway Operations

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Highway operations, total O and M, $19.231 million. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the winter road construction they maintain a winter road network. We have quite a number of miles of winter roads. Is the Alberta portion included, which is through the park from Fort Chipewyan, in this winter road network?

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

We have 1,800 kilometres of winter road in place. No, it does not include the Fort Chipewyan road.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mahsi. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Perhaps the Minister is correct and it does not include that. This House knows there was an area of concern. This road is beneficial to a particular community and there was pressure put on the government to work at this road. At the last minute, it almost appeared that this road was not going to go through. I suspect this will happen again next year. Would the Minister look into the commitment from this government and both the Alberta

and federal governments to get this road in early, and not wait until the last minute, to avoid the harangue which took place previously?

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd, would you inquire into the matter with the other jurisdictions?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I understand, Mr. Chairman, that the efforts of the previous Minister were highly successful in acquiring funding to do this. It was a one shot deal. I certainly do not want to be harangued for that particular road. Every effort will be made to come to a satisfactory agreement that will enable this road to go forward. However, at this time I am not in a position to say whether it will or not until we try to come to some agreement.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you. To avoid any delay, I would caution the Minister to get the negotiations under way early before freeze-up so that this can be secured, if indeed they are going to continue. I think it is of great importance to some communities. The earlier the better. This was a comment only, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I want to assure the Member that we did have, and I understand it was done under the previous Minister, a commitment to meet with the federal and Alberta people in an effort to try to resolve that this spring. Again, I cannot say this is going to be resolved because negotiations are under way. It is our intention to try to come to some timely conclusion to these discussions so we can meet the winter road requirements early rather than late as has happened in the past.