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Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi. I know it made common sense, because as you mentioned the engineers, both the capital planners from Education, and the project officer from Public Works said it made sense.

Another area where sometimes there seems to be lack of coordination between departments is for most public buildings that are owned by this government, the O and M is managed or looked after by Public Works. Sometimes there are problems with the condition of buildings and the safety aspects, then other departments get involved. But there just seems to be a problem sometimes with the coordination between the sponsoring department and Public Works who is normally responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the building. I would assume that in doing maintenance and upkeep of a building, if there is anything seriously flawed with a building, it would be brought to the attention of somebody through your maintenance people. So, I'm just raising a point.

Again, there is a lot of coordination and things seem to fall between the cracks sometimes. I'm wondering what is the department doing to try to address it, interdepartmentally.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. That was more or less a point with implication for a response from the Minister. Mr. Minister.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have regular scheduled maintenance for all buildings and we try to keep on top of it. Some things do fall through the cracks, like the Member has said.

Just to comment some more on the previous comment the Member made on the capital projects to get finances, I just checked with the Minister of Finance and the main reason for us not being able to agree to that was commitment of funding for the future government. Also, it was seen as we would have to fast-track one school when there were lots of schools needed in the Northwest Territories. It was just one school and it would not be politically viable or saleable. Thank you.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Member for Inuvik.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you. I don't want to get into debate. It's questionable; you're right, we're right and people in the community are right. It's something that has to be coordinated, and this government has, over the years, signed contracts -- three, four or five-year contracts -- especially municipal contracts. So that argument of committing future funds doesn't hold a lot of strength with me because it's been done before. I just hope that my original comment of being innovative and using the resources that are available within different communities or different areas, and the ideas put forward by different groups should be, at least, not so much acted on, but looked at. There are a lot of good ideas out there and there are a lot of new companies coming on the scene that have good capabilities, and I think we have to consider what they're proposing and, again, look at different ways of accommodating the needs. Again, these are needs of communities.

Some of the statements were that needs vary from one area to another. Again, every time, on every page, we see where projects are allocated. It's not necessarily based on need. There are all kinds of reasons why projects are put in certain places. But I won't get into that because I might get my ears slapped.

I just want to make the point that if there are capabilities, with proper financing and proper management, we should be looking very hard at the abilities of a community to do a certain project. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. General comments. I have Mr. Gargan but he's not in the House. Are we ready for line by line?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Line By Line

Directorate

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are on page 8. Section 9, Public Works and Services 1995-96 capital estimates, directorate, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $65,000.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total buildings and works, $65,000.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total activity for this page is $65,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Accommodation Services

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 08-11, accommodation services, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $300,000. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Just a question. I know last year there was a motion passed that the department was to do a feasibility analysis and an accommodation analysis at headquarters. Was that done?

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it was done, and SCOF was briefed on it and accepted it.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I'm not on SCOF. Okay.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total region, $300,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Fort Smith, total region, $330,000.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Inuvik, total region, $113,000.

Committee Motion 38-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 11, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed