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Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. During the consultation process, we will be using independent consultants from the regions to consult with businesses, hamlet councils, local band councils and everybody else who has to be involved in this consultation process. We are also required, under land claims agreements, to consult with land claims organizations like the Sahtu, the Gwich'in and the Inuit people, to ensure that they're involved in any major change to any major government policy.

The general message that I've gotten from people in the communities and business people, everyone I've talked to so far has been positive about the consultation process. They like the idea that independent consultants will be consulting with them, with the support of DPW staff. The majority of the people I've heard from are in great support of this consultation process, except for the Northwest Territories Construction Association. The executive director is the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm puzzled as to what the definition of an independent consultant is. I thought that consultants were generally independent. They were a business that is set up to do a particular type of job. Is there a difference between an independent consultant and a consultant?

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The idea of hiring consultants is so that the Department of Public Works staff is not doing the consulting; they're there as technical support people. An independent consultant who does not work for the department as an employee would be consulting with the people in the regions. That's how it is to be set up. Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I thought a consultant was a person who owned a business, who was in a business of consulting particular items and was set up to do this kind of thing. I'm sort of getting the feeling that it's just going to be anybody, but I just want to clarify this with the Minister. Is this going to be a registered business, a consultant firm, or an independent individual; somebody in business to do the job, already, not just anybody unless they're registered, unless they're a business? Is this a business they're talking about?

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm not saying that this would happen or the Department of Public Works civil servants would do this, but in some cases when people develop a paper they become possessive of it. Or when they're supposed to be going out to consult, they go out to defend the paper. That's not the case, I did not want that to happen. In this case, the Department of Public Works drafted a new business incentive policy. It's clearly by my direction that it goes out to consultation in draft form so that we can get the good ideas of the business people out there and the community groups, and implement that in a new draft. The best way to do that is to have an independent consultant to facilitate in the communities. We will be going to request for proposals for regional facilitators. That will appear in the newspapers in the next couple of weeks. I'm sure they will have business licences and all the instruments involved in running that type of business.

It will clearly be an independent process, with technical help from DPW so that we can document the good recommendations from the communities and the regions. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I may have gone off an a bit of a tangent here, but I just wanted assurance that the people who will be responding to these proposals will be bona fide northern business people and will meet the necessary requirements to run this business. I just wanted the assurance that they would be business people, small or big.

Supplementary To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. We will ensure that all businesses, small or big, will have an opportunity to respond to the draft business incentive policy. Many have gone out in the mail already, I believe, to the communities and the regions so they have the document ahead of time. I'm looking forward to hearing from them so we draft a business incentive policy that will be simple but yet will close the loopholes there now that allow southern businesses to take advantage of the policy. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
Question 257-12(6): Consultation Process For Bip Review
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 25th, 1994

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and it is, again, with regard to the Arctic Winter Games. Madam Speaker, in international Olympics or even the Commonwealth Games, communities are informed probably five to eight years ahead about which community has been successful in being selected. That is required time for them to put in the infrastructure and organize the necessary volunteers, and everything else involved in order to be successful in hosting the games.

There is usually also a time lapse, so that if they don't think they can meet up to standards, they still have the option to withdraw and allow another community to host it. I would think that process is also used by the Arctic Winter Games. Ian Legaree and Don Cooper are both from Yellowknife and they are both on the selection board.

I know Don Cooper used to be one of the lawyers in this Assembly and he knows a lot about conflict of interest rules. So, I'm just wondering whether or not, in this case, the two members who are serving on the board and representing the Northwest Territories were there to make the decision to select Yellowknife, or if they withdrew because of the possible conflict they might have.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am informed that Mr. Cooper declined to be involved in the selection of the 1998 AWG host community because Mr. Cooper is legal counsel for both the city of Yellowknife and the town of Inuvik. He felt there was a conflict of interest and a situation might arise. That was his reason.

Mr. Ian Legaree also declined to be involved in the selection because in his role as a member of the Arctic Winter Games International Committee, Mr. Legaree strongly supported and promoted the concept of moving the games into smaller NWT communities. And, also as a director of sports and recreation for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Legaree works closely with both communities. He felt support for one would damage his working relationship with the other. So that was another conflict situation which arose. Thank you.

Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister whether the decision was made on the spur of the moment, or did they think down the road five years to 1998, when the Arctic Winter Games are to be held, and didn't expect the town of Inuvik to meet up to the obligations of hosting the games.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

Further Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would love to answer the Member's question. But, as a result of the absence in that selection of our representatives, I cannot respond to his question. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

I didn't hear why she couldn't respond to my question. I know the decision was made because they said Inuvik was too small. I wanted to ask the Minister if it is because they just didn't think that five years down the road Inuvik could meet up to its obligations to hold it.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

Further Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. What I was saying is that, because we didn't have representatives in that selection, sitting there and participating during that process, I cannot respond to the Member's question. I would just be speculating as to how the selection was arrived at. Thank you.