This is page numbers 515 - 547 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Further Return To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Final supplementary, Mr. Gargan.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

So, is the Minister taking the question as notice, then?

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will take it as notice.

Supplementary To Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Question 258-12(6): Conflict Of Interest Re Awg Site Selection
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Lewis.

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I note that on Saturday, October 22nd, there was a call for proposals put out by the Department of Finance that appeared in the Edmonton Journal on page B-12. The proposal calls for a study of financing alternatives for education in local government programs and services. I would like to ask our Premier, is it the intention that this study examine the financing of education throughout the territories, including the local school boards.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Madam Premier.

Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I will take the question as notice.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions.

Speaker's Ruling

Prior to going to written questions, I would like to advise the House that I've reviewed Written Question 17-12(6), posed yesterday by the honourable Member for Yellowknife North. In reviewing Written Question 17-12(6), the way the question is worded appears to make it a hypothetical question. Therefore, I've decided to rule the question out of order.

Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North, Mr. Ballantyne.

Written Question 18-12(6): Impact Of The Proposed 22% Low Water Surcharge
Item 7: Written Questions

October 25th, 1994

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will try it again. I will ask the question of the Minister of Finance this time.

Would the Minister of Finance please advise this House of the following:

1. What would be the impact on power rates throughout the Northwest Territories of a 22 per cent low water surcharge on the Snare system?

2. What would be the impact on the power subsidy paid by the GNWT of a 22 per cent low water surcharge?

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik, Mr. Koe.

Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I have a written question for the Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Would the Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs please advise this House of the following:

What is the total financial contribution from this government and, specifically, from the Department of MACA in relation to the Arctic Winter Games, this includes the AWG trials:

a)1990 - actual;

b)1992 - actual;

c)1994 - actual;

d)1996 - estimated; and,

e)1998 - estimated.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford.

Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Minister of Public Works and Services please advise the House of the following:

What are the total annual costs since implementation of the business incentive policy, as calculated by summing the difference between amounts paid on government contracts to qualified businesses and what would have been paid to the lowest unqualified bidder?

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik, Mr. Koe.

Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Would the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs please provide the following information:

What are the total financial contributions from Sport North to Arctic Winter Games, this includes the AWG trials:

a)1990 - actual;

b)1992 - actual;

c)1994 - actual;

d)1996 - estimated; and,

e)1998 - estimated.

Mahsi.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Member for Hay River, Mr. Pollard.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I wish to table the following document, Tabled Document 42-12(6), Interim Financial Report of the Government of the Northwest Territories for the year ended March 31, 1994. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Member for High Arctic, Mr. Pudluk.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

Thank you. At this time, I would like to table Tabled Document 43-12(6), a letter sent to me from the Alcohol Education Committee concerning two things: getting a building and getting a secretary. Thank you.

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 14-12(6), "Open for Business" - Privatizing the Northwest Territories Power Corporation; Tabled Document 23-12(6), Report of the 1993-94 Electoral District Boundaries Commission Northwest Territories; Tabled Document 36-12(6), "Action Plan - Consolidation - Health and Social Services"; Minister's Statement 11-12(6), Return to Session; Committee Report 10-12(6), Report on the Review of the 1995-96 Capital Estimates; Committee Report 11-12(6), Report on the First Annual Report (1992-93) of the Languages Commissioner of the NWT; Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 1,

1995-96; Bill 2, Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act; Bill 3, Guardianship and Trusteeship Act; Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Arctic College Act; Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act; and, Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, with Mr. Whitford in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Good afternoon. The committee will now come to order. Prior to getting into the business of the committee of the whole, I have a ruling to make which deals with yesterday's proceedings.

Chairman's Ruling

Prior to proceeding with business in committee today, I would like to provide my ruling on the point of order raised by the Member for Sahtu, Mr. Kakfwi.

A point of order was raised by Mr. Kakfwi during discussions of the Department of Health and Social Services capital appropriations. To remind Members, Mr. Kakfwi's point of order is contained on page 1236 of the unedited Hansard. And I quote, "Mr. Chairman, the previous speaker, Mr. Ng, from where I am sitting, appeared to be imputing a motive that perhaps the Minister or this government were allocating capital money and priorizing based on Ministers' ridings.

"I raise it as a point of order for two things: one, it's imputing a motive and two, it's raising the issue that has done a disservice to my community of Fort Norman once already in the fall of 1992. It appears to be raising it's ugly head again, so I want to raise this as a point of order."

I apologize, I said 1992, it should be, "1991. It's appears to be raising it's ugly head again, so I want to raise this as a point of order."

To put this point of order in context, I feel that it is important to comment on the remarks made by the honourable Member for Kitikmeot, Mr. Ng, on which the point of order was raised. Mr. Ng's comments are contained on page 1234 of the unedited Hansard, and I quote those as well.

"When I first learned of the deletion of the Gjoa Haven residence -- which affected the Kitikmeot because there is no form of elders' support at all in the whole region -- I seriously considered putting forward a motion for deletion of the Fort Resolution and Fort Norman elders' residences. The way I perceived it, it was unfair of the government. It may have been coincidence, but these are two Ministers' ridings and the needs of a have-not region, the Kitikmeot -- which has always been a have-not region -- were being neglected again."

The point of order raised by Mr. Kakfwi is addressed under rule 23(i) which states, "In debate a Member will be called to order by the Speaker if the Member imputes false or hidden motives to another Member." It is always difficult for the chair to rule on this type of matter. The chair should not be placed in the position of having to interpret any of the comments made by a Member. However, it is the chair's responsibility to call a

Member to order if there is a clear and explicit comment or comments made that would be an infraction of rule 23 (i).

In reviewing the Hansard, I am of the opinion that the comments made by Mr. Ng were not explicit enough to be an infraction of this rule, as his comments were prefaced with, "the way I perceived it" and, "it may have been coincidence." Therefore, Mr. Kakfwi does not have a point of order on his first issue.

However, as we are all honourable Members, I would caution all Members to be conscientious of their comments made in debate, so as to ensure that another Member doesn't misunderstand their comments and intentions. As to his second issue that gave rise to the point of order, it is clear that there is no point of order on the issue, as this was just a point of debate.

Therefore, Mr. Kakfwi, I find that you don't have a point of order.

What is the wish of the committee for today? The chair recognizes the Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I would like to recommend that the committee resume consideration of Committee Report 10-12(6) and Bill 1, specifically dealing with the Department of Health and Social Services budget. And, if we conclude that department, I recommend that move into consideration of Bill 3 and perhaps, depending on how long that takes, we might even get into Public Works and Services in the budget later on this afternoon.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Does the committee agree?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed