Thank you, Mr. Dent, you're quite correct, it's just that the answer was so long I thought perhaps she had taken it upon herself. My apologies. The chair recognizes the deputy minister, Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Some of that additional information will be available from the needs assessments that are being completed by the health boards as we speak. We are starting to get the information that allows us to differentiate the levels of care that are needed. We'll be a lot further ahead in that regard at the end of this year, and that should help us to pinpoint the exact locations where this is needed.
At the same time, we're working with the Housing Corporation -- I think that may have been mentioned earlier in the House -- to develop a strategy for satisfying the housing needs of elders. That's scheduled to be tabled in this House at the next session of the Legislative Assembly. That should provide a clear picture of who has responsibility for what aspects of the housing program and how the needs will be satisfied. Thank you.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could I ask specifically, what happened to the plan to have the shortfall, between the $972,000 and the cost of the Fort Resolution elders' residence, financed by conventional mortgage? As I had mentioned, the Standing Committee on Finance was advised by the chairman of the Financial Management Board that that was the plan last year.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I know that the figures indicate a different process of how we're going to do it on a fully-funded operation; however, as there are several other requests and needs that have to be met, that is still an option. That option has not been discarded. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you, Madam Premier. The chair now recognizes Mr. Gargan, Member for Deh Cho.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, just for clarification of the process, last year, in the five-year forecast, there was $100,000 designated for Gjoa Haven for, I guess, planning and design. Was there an amount designated under planning and design for Gjoa Haven for the senior citizens' home?
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, as I indicated earlier, the Gjoa Haven facility was, at one time, in the budget and therefore planning money was also in the budget at that time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Last year, there was $100,000 approved then, for planning and design. What happened to that allocation?
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the officials here say it is still in the budget.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
I'm sorry, Madam Premier, we didn't get the last part of your remarks. Madam Premier.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
It is still in the budget, as it was previously in 1994-95.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
With regard to the senior citizens' home in Fort Providence, on numerous occasions, I requested renovations to the cluster units; there are four of them. There are four single-bedroom units. Each two-bedroom unit has a kitchen, bathroom, but no common room area. I was told they want to keep that because of the level of acute care.
Given that we are pressed for dollars for renovations, I was wondering if it is realistic for the community of Fort Providence to have level II care at the senior citizens' home, without it costing this government a lot of dollars. I know that, previously, when seniors were too old to care for themselves, they were sent to Hay River.
I'm wondering if, with level II care, you need an extra professional do deal with those elders.
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I know I always get confused about what is level I, level II and level III. I think the honourable Member is talking about level III care. I have said to Members here that I want you to be sure I am working with the Minister responsible for Housing. I specifically asked what kind of action we could take with the Fort Providence senior citizens' home. I asked that question yesterday and I got an answer yesterday.
What the Minister of Housing has indicated to me is that he has directed his officials at the corporation to develop a request for funding from CMHC, to conduct renovations at the seniors' facility. He did that on October 7, 1994. Mr. Morin believes it is important that the health officials consult with the elders in Fort Providence to see if there is a need for level I or level II care. With level II care, one caretaker is required. It is not as extreme as level III where, generally, elders are referred to Yellowknife or some major centre.
Mr. Morin has indicated that before resources are spent on renovations, he wants to determine that there will not be a need in the foreseeable future for level II care units. The officials of both our departments are committed to meeting immediately to try to resolve with the community exactly what their needs are, so that we can proceed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
About Fort Resolution, I would like to ask the Minister, while officials are consulting with the elders at the seniors' home, that I am kept informed about the status of that. I know the four residents who are there: Mr. Ted Beaulieu, Mr. Vital Brula, Mr. Harry Minoza and Mr. Nadli. They have all requested that somehow the units be individualized. It causes disruption. All of them are over 60, but they would like to live their own lives, and live them in peace.
It was as a result of their request, that I requested they consider maybe making renovations to individualize the units. I appreciate the Minister's response to that. Thank you.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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