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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The chair continues to recognize Mr. Pudlat and then Mr. Gargan. I seem to have switched on the legal people's microphone accidentally. Just bear with us a moment. Maybe I'll just switch chairs. We seem to be having technical problems, so we'll take a short break until this matter is cleared up.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

These proceedings can continue. Sorry for the inconvenience. The problem seems to have been corrected. When we left before the break, the speaker would have been Mr. Pudlat. Mr. Pudlat.

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) This is just a short statement. Mr. Chairman, we all know how we started off and the fact that the federal government is no longer responsible for housing in the Northwest Territories. When we started getting housing in the Northwest Territories, it was very easy to pay for. At one time, I remember I paid $2 a month for rent. We also were able to get a barrel of fuel a month. They would deliver it to the side of our house and we weren't even asked to pay for it. I know it is quite different now, as opposed to that time. But I am telling the story, although a lot of people know about it.

Utilities cost quite a lot now and it is quite difficult for people who own and rent houses to pay for their utilities. That's the reality in our constituency. We have to represent our constituents and their concerns of today are different from yesterday. It seems the federal government was trying to encourage the Inuit to move into communities. That's how they lured them to larger centres: by having houses which didn't cost enough. In this day and age, we have to pay for everything. It is getting more and more difficult to live in the communities for that reason. That is all I wanted to comment on. This is not exactly a question, so there is no real need for an answer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Pudlat. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in the Minister's opening statement he mentioned that the corporation has now been operating for 20 years and this is their anniversary. I wanted to wish him happy anniversary.

The thing the Minister didn't announce is that, although we have $49 million this year for housing -- and I was leading up to this yesterday -- we also have $9 million for remote housing programs. I'm just wondering what is happening with this money. Is it going to become part of the $49 million, or is that additional money to put extra houses into the communities?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Minister Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We're still exploring the possibilities of how the $9 million can be best used. We still have not received final word from the federal government on how we can use it in our existing programs. My understanding, from the dealings of our staff with CMHC, is that it could be streamlined into our program. Also, our government increased our allocation by $17 million for housing. I'm sure the Minister of Finance will be quite anxious to get some of that money back as well.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you, Minister Morin. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Well, perhaps the Minister of Finance doesn't have a housing problem, but I do. I would like to ask of the Minister, in his deliberations with the Minister of Finance, that he try to address some of the concerns that I expressed yesterday.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Minister Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to assure the Member that if anything is going to happen,

where allocations are going to be changed, beefed up, or whatever, it will all be done in a fair manner. Thank you.

NWT Housing Corporation

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Morin. General comments. The NWT Housing Corporation, page 03-11. Contributions, headquarters, total region, $4.274 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Fort Smith, total region, $4.855 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Inuvik, total region, $6.472 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Baffin, total region, $16.235 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Keewatin, total region, $9.245 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Kitikmeot, total region, $7.919 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Total contributions, $49 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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