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Bill 16: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, No. 2
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 13.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 14.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 15.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

I hear no nays on any of those issues. The bill as a whole. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

With regard to clause 15, the act comes into force on the first dissolution of the Legislative Assembly that occurs after the act receives assent. This is the first time that something like this has been written. Usually it comes into force after the Commissioner...There's usually a date there on the enforcement of it. So it comes into force, I guess on Friday.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

I would like to ask our Law Clerk to explain what this clause means. Ms. MacPherson.

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Law Clerk Ms. Macpherson

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This means that the act would come into force after this Assembly is dissolved by the Commissioner and an election is called. I believe this clause is the same as the conflict of interest amendments that were introduced by the 11th Assembly. They came into force to govern the operations of the 12th Assembly. So this isn't the first time that we've seen this type of coming into force clause.

I believe the rationale behind it was the desire to avoid legislating in this area, to govern yourselves it is fitting that this should be the type of amendment that would be introduced for Members of the 13th Assembly to take advantage of. As well, there may well be an administrative or procedural complexity of changing the rules as they were. So this act is intended, unless Members wish otherwise, to come into force after the 12th Assembly finishes.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Are you satisfied with that explanation, Mr. Gargan? Okay. The bill as a whole.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Does the committee agree that Bill 16 is ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Bill 16 is now ready for third reading. Thank you, Mr. Pollard. Thank you, Mr. Aitken.

Bill 18: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1993-94
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November 7th, 1994

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The Chair Brian Lewis

We're on Bill 18, the third item on Mr. Dent's list, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1993-94. Mr. Pollard, it's your bill. Do you have any introductory comments, please?

Minister's Introductory Remarks

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4 requests

authority for additional appropriations of $22,799,968 for operations and maintenance.

This supplementary appropriation is required by the provisions of sections 35, 36 and 37 of the Financial Administration Act. These sections provide that when an appropriation is exceeded because of the recording of liabilities at the end of the fiscal year, the amount that the liability exceeds the appropriation is an interim appropriation for that fiscal year.

Further, the Financial Administration Act requires that the interim appropriation be submitted to the Legislative Assembly in the form of a supplementary appropriation bill. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, for 1993-94, the following are statutory interim appropriations: $244,719 for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment; $15,441,249 for the Department of Executive, specifically the Financial Management Board Secretariat; $5.389 million for the Department of Health; and, $1.725 million for the Department of Finance.

Mr. Chairman, I would be prepared to try and answer Members' questions with regard to this supplementary appropriation bill. Thank you.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Mr. Dent, the Standing Committee on Finance report, please.

Standing Committee On Finance Comments

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to present the comments from the Standing Committee on Finance on Bill 18.

The Standing Committee on Finance reviewed Bill 18, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4, 1993-94, at its meeting on October 19, 1994. Mr. Chairman, in total, this bill represents an additional appropriation of almost $22.8 million for the 1993-94 fiscal year. If this bill is passed, the total voted appropriations for the fiscal year 1993-94 will be approximately $1.26 billion.

Committee Members decided that it was not necessary for the Minister to appear before the Finance committee to respond to questions about this supplementary appropriation act, therefore, Members will pose their questions in committee of the whole.

During our meeting on October 19th, the committee referred this bill to the House for consideration. Members recognized that most of the items in this appropriation request are needed to conclude the budget for the 1993-94 fiscal year. The largest single item, for slightly more than $13.8 million, is the government's revised estimate of the liability for employee ultimate removal benefits. The chairman of the Financial Management Board had previously informed committee Members that such adjustments are required to reflect more accurately the government's potential liability for paying ultimate removal benefits to their employees.

This bill also includes close to $5.4 million in additional appropriations to provide for the potential liability in the health billings dispute with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs, Canada. The total 1993-94 adjustment to this doubtful account allowance was $12 million.

Mr. Chairman, one item in this appropriation stands out, this is an additional appropriation for slightly more than $1.7 million for the loss and refinancing of the municipality of Iqaluit's debenture loan. The total 1993-94 adjustment was more than $1.8 million.

Mr. Chairman, this concludes the comments of the Standing Committee on Finance. Committee Members will have questions for the Minister when we proceed to the detail of the bill. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Pollard, you may want to bring in some witnesses.

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John Pollard Hay River

Yes, I would, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Is that all right with Members of the committee?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Sergeant-at-Arms, would you bring in the witnesses, please.

Mr. Pollard, for the record, would you like to introduce your witness to the committee?