This is page numbers 831 - 877 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

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Long Weekend Boating Accident In Rae-edzo
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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker as you are aware, on September 1, 1996 long weekend, the residents of Rae suffered one of the worst boating accidents in the history of the community.

The disaster struck the hearts and souls of numerous people and organizations from across the north. The response from within our region and other regions across the North as well as southern Canada to assist the families has been tremendous. Without the support the search could not have continued. Numerous residents battled adverse and sometimes dangerous weather and lake conditions trying to find the victims, this was continued until all victims were found, which took approximately three weeks.

Unfortunately this type of search has cost the community both financially and emotionally, casting a tremendous burden. However with the numerous donations of support both spiritually and financially, the family has been able to close this mournful event and try to cope with life and the memories their loved ones left behind. For the families, band council and my region, I would like to thank each and every one of you for your kindness and support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Long Weekend Boating Accident In Rae-edzo
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Members' statements, Mr. Enuaraq.

Absence From The House
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October 2nd, 1996

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to announce an information, I will not be at this House on October 7, on Saturday and, as well as, on Sunday. I will be going to Iqaluit for a meeting.

Absence From The House
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Members' statements, Mr. Ootes.

Personal Priorities In The Next Few Weeks
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to talk today about my priorities for the coming weeks. I hope this will be of benefit to my colleagues and my constituents, the people of Yellowknife Centre.

Let me begin by saying that we live in a time of change. Our task here is to help our communities manage the changes that will come from government cut-backs, division, and community empowerment. Given the situation, I am very concerned about the future of Yellowknife. Yellowknife is generally regarded as a have community. That means it is a ripe target for cuts. Many will be necessary and we must accept our share. However, I fear this government's agenda for change may dictate that my constituents shoulder a sustained burden over a longer period than any other community.

Yellowknife faces cuts after all on three fronts, not just from the deficit, but also from the devolution of power to local governments, and from division which will hit very hard over the next three years. I fear that no other community will see such reductions in the level of government during the countdown to 1999 and beyond, and government whether we like it or not is a fundamental component of every local economy in the North.

Mr. Speaker, let me clarify my position here. I support the need to balance our budget. I support the devolution of power to the communities, I support division of the Northwest Territories and the creation of Nunavut. However, I am going to be cautious about measures that hurt my constituency. Community empowerment, for example, is a measure that, to me, is not yet well thought out. It takes jobs out of Yellowknife, potentially, without guaranteeing benefits to other communities. I do not think it meets our goal of devolution, I will speak to this and other issues and policies as the session continues.

For now, let me conclude with this thought, our job is to ensure that the changes we make here benefit all northerners, the includes the people of Yellowknife. My job is to make sure Yellowknifers are not forgotten or taken for granted in this difficult period. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Personal Priorities In The Next Few Weeks
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Members' statement, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Relationship Between Cabinet And Ordinary Members
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wrote my Members' statement about 5 o'clock this morning, I had my lap top there and I must admit it was a lot more interesting then. I have amended it somewhat.

I was elected by and am accountable to the people of Hay River/Enterprise and the Corridor. In turn, on behalf of my constituents, along with my colleagues, elected a Premier and Cabinet who are accountable to the Ordinary Members and the people of the Northwest Territories.

Yesterday, in the Premier's Sessional Address we heard much about working together with the ordinary members, then much discussion took place in committees as a whole about the changes to the capital budget. We were told by more than one member of Cabinet that, perhaps, communication was faulty and was not what it should have been with the Ordinary MLAs, but "we are very busy, we need to let managers manage, and they won't have their hands tied."

Mr. Speaker, I submit to you that a member of this house finding out on the street, after the fact, that a significant project in their community has been deleted from the capital budget is worse than faulty communication. I would remind the members of Cabinet in FMB that each and every member of this House got here by winning the confidence and respect of their communities and constituents and is entitled to the respect of that position.

The new Members that were elected to this House a year ago who now constitute most of the Ordinary Members, gave up jobs, positions in their community and all the comforts of home, to come here and serve their own constituents in a meaningful way.

We may be new to this level of politics and we are on a fast learning curve, but, I assure you, we are not stupid. MLAs are not the community leaders, mayors, chiefs, that Minister Thompson referred to taking direction from yesterday. We are not the advisors to the Premier who sit on the panel on the economy and we are not a special interest group to be consulted with at the pleasure of Cabinet.

We are your peers, who respectfully chose you, the more experienced members to hold positions of departmental leadership. We are told continually that, in terms of involvement, we have far more input into decisions that we would have had in previous governments, and agreed, the capital budget is not a huge amount of this government's budget. However, I am more concerned with the fundamental principals of the role of ordinary members.

Mr. Speaker, seeking unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Relationship Between Cabinet And Ordinary Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The member for Hay River is seeking unanimous consent to conclude a statement. Do we have any nay's? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent to conclude the statement.

Relationship Between Cabinet And Ordinary Members
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

What is the point of the hours, days, weeks spent in committee meetings in the budget approval process if cabinet/FMB has latitude to amend it? What is the value of the increased involvement? If this extensive consultation was required to arrive at a plan, should not any be required to amend it?

The issue of communication surrounding the altering of the capital plan is not an isolated situation or concern. Communication with all members of this House is the cornerstone of effective leadership. We entered into this house on the premise of working together, not wasting time taking adversarial positions for the sake of being adversarial. However, this is a two way street, and this respect must be reciprocal, it is the rule of do unto others.

If members of Cabinet should forget about when they were ordinary members and how they wanted to be involved and treated, a very vivid and life like reminder may come to pass. I suggested to one Minister yesterday, partly in jest, that if ordinary members input into decision making is not taken seriously and we are the last to find out things relative to our constituents and communities as an MLA undermining our credibility, I think that given the large number of chairs in this assembly, we should prop mannequins in all of those chairs, rename the Cabinet a benevolent dictatorship, increase their pay and pension accordingly, go home, and get on with our lives.

I know that this particular crop of ordinary members have great potential for working with this Cabinet for the benefit and betterment of our Territory. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Relationship Between Cabinet And Ordinary Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Disadvantages Of The Sale Of Staff Housing
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

I cannot top that, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday there were some questions regarding the sale of staff housing and leases. Mr. Speaker, it is my belief that the sale of staff housing has not been thoroughly thought out. Yet, approximately 530 staff houses that are still owned by this government have been bought and paid for, and actuality they generate an excess of $1 million revenue net to this government. A government that needs this type of revenue. Without guaranteed staff housing in communities, many of the people that we need, and will need, will have no place to stay if we proceed with this plan.

Forced growth alone in the Baffin Region, for example, is approximately eight percent per year. Over three years that means 24 percent increase in students in our schools, for example. Where will we house the extra teachers we will need to help educate our children? Will we have to lease these units at cost about the new Western Territory and Nunavut government? That would be asinine.

The Finance Minister has repeatedly said the sale of staff housing is an intricate part of our deficit reduction scheme, but how do we reconcile that with the need to provide adequate housing to staff, especially in the smaller communities where there is no housing market? This has to be reviewed.

In my community the dropping of housing leases, as explained in my questions to the Minister yesterday, indicated it is still a very strong area of concern, and we have a housing market. I would ask that the Minister sit down with the MLAs and explain what process will be in place to guarantee housing for staff and cases where because of financial or other consideration or other consideration they can not or choose not to purchase their unit.

Mr. Speaker, the NIC recommended holding on to staff housing and I also asked the Minister to review again, this policy, so that when Nunavut is created, and when the new Western Territory begins anew on April 1, 1999 that those governments will not be put into position of having to build more staff housing because the 13th Assembly sold all of our houses. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Disadvantages Of The Sale Of Staff Housing
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

Process For Negotiating A Northern Accord
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is in regards to the northern accord process and also the whole confusing circumstances that we find ourselves in the North in regards to the diamond industry and, also, in regards to the oil and gas industry in the public and general.

In 1988 there was an agreement signed between the federal government and the government of the Northwest Territories to start negotiating the northern accord to transfer oil, gas and mineral authority to the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, that has been eight years in the works, to date nothing has been concluded. There is talk about adding new initiatives to the Accord which a lot of aboriginal groups and interest groups especially in ... (inaudible) ... and environment have a say in the matter. Yet, until today, nothing has been concluded.

In June 1985 there was a negotiation session which was held in Calgary between the aboriginal groups and the Government of the Northwest Territories. At that time, there were two positions on the table. There was a draft document which was being negotiated, and to date this government has agreed that they will do a consultation process to restart the process.

The question that I will be asking later to the Honourable Premier, is that he says a lot of revenues and resources have been spent on the process, yet here we are today at deadlock between the diamond industry, the Aboriginal groups, the two governments that do not know who has jurisdiction over what, and that basically there has to be some way of resolving this issue and basically putting it to rest once and for all. It has been a long process, it has been eight years, in which nothing has been done to date. So my question will be raised later on in the house with that. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Process For Negotiating A Northern Accord
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Concerns About Aboriginal Cultural Attitudes
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I wanted to make some comments about resources and our attitudes towards them as a Member of this Legislature.

We know that the north is full of resources, but we have yet, on the national or even territorial scale, been able to commit to measuring and assessing the total richness of the resources we have at hand. We have as well, yet, to show you commitment to showing the appreciation we should have for the richness we have for our own cultures, and our own histories, and our own language that are with us still today. And I say that because I have some concerns about certain developments recently.

For instance, what does it mean when the native women of the Northwest Territories forgo looking into their own rich cultural, aboriginal history and language, and choose instead, in large numbers, to go with a colonial name of Northwest Territories. I challenge our youth, our women, to look at themselves and tell me and tell the rest of us in the North who they are. Later this afternoon, I will table a motion from the Sahtu Dene Metis Assembly, that this summer passed a motion support of retiring the name Northwest Territories and committing to working on a process to come up with a new name for a new Territory that will come into existence in 1999. Thank you.

Concerns About Aboriginal Cultural Attitudes
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Members statements. Mr. Erasmus.

The Need For A Diamond Evaluation And Sorting Plant In The North
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is concerning a diamond valuation and sorting plant.

However, it seems the government may be overlooking an obvious bonanza. The way it is now, our companies are going to throw our diamonds into a bag and send them to Antwerp or where ever.

We need a diamond evaluation and sorting plant in Yellowknife. That would create jobs for northerners, it would also bring the diamond industry to the north. If rough diamonds are left here, diamond purchasers would have to come here to purchase diamonds. In fact, Yellowknife could become the diamond centre of Canada.

Mr. Speaker, this government has spent millions of dollars on projects that require ongoing funding. A diamond evaluation and sorting plant would not require ongoing funding, in fact, it has a potential to start an economy of it's own. If we are successful in negotiating the Northern Accord, we could get taxes in kind.

Governments of Russia and Africa now keep 10 to 15 percent of the diamonds that are harvested instead of getting taxes and royalties. Their people then add value to the rough diamonds in the form of rings, watches, and such things. And, in fact, create more jobs in subsidiary industries. This could happen here as well. Such a plan could also ensure that we know how many diamonds that come out of the ground. Maybe this is not so important now, because we do not get the royalties, but once we conclude the Northern Accord, it would be very important.

Mr. Speaker, this land is rich in resources, unfortunately we usually export our raw resources and then import finished products made from resources. This is one time we do not have to let our resources leave the north without value added. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Need For A Diamond Evaluation And Sorting Plant In The North
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The member for Yellowknife North is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Any nays? There are no nays, conclude your statement, Mr. Erasmus.

The Need For A Diamond Evaluation And Sorting Plant In The North
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated, this is one time when we do not have to let our resources leave the north without value added. This government has said it is ready to be innovative. This government has said it is ready to spend money to create jobs and business opportunities for aboriginal people and other northerners.

Building a diamond evaluation and sorting plant in Yellowknife would be a good start. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

The Need For A Diamond Evaluation And Sorting Plant In The North
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Members' statements. Members' statement. Returns to oral questions, returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the Gallery, Ms. Thompson.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like recognize NWT Status of Women Council in the gallery. Rita Arey, president; Rebecca Kudloo, vice president; Sister Agnes Sutherland, vice president; ... (inaudible) ... ; Elizabeth Lyall; Joan Kalaserk; Sharon Hall, executive director; Adena Sumter-Freitag, community worker;

Marsha Argue, researcher; Theresa Handley, administrative assistant. I am going to ask those ladies to stand up please, so we can recognize you.

And Dennis Bevington, president of Municipalities, He was up there. I do not know where he is, but I also recognize him. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a constituent of mine who is temporarily living in Yellowknife, attending school here, Flory Laurence.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize some of the people that live in the Yellowknife North constituency, Wilma Erasmus, Randy Erasmus and Bill Erasmus. I am not sure if they are still here, but they were when we started.