Thank you, Mr. Ootes. To the motion. Mr. Miltenberger.
Debates of May 13th, 1996
This is page numbers 297 - 329 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was development.
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Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. While I realize that this is a motherhood and apple pie kind of issue that very few people would want to publicly vote against, I just have some concerns about process. This is a fairly important kind of motion which would reflect how we want to do business. Granted, we want to have as much debate as possible in the House, 1, personally, have a problem with motions that are put on the floor. There's a notice of motion given, but there was no significant discussion in committee or anywhere else that I'm aware of, except maybe up and down the halls upstairs.
Mr. Speaker, we are in the process of reviewing the Access to Information Act which this, to me, would fall under and has direct bearing. So, while I have no problem with the intent of this motion, I would encourage that if we're going to do this with motions of this magnitude, we have more discussion and not just limited to the very formal process in the House where you can speak once. Then once that's done, it's over. It would be a shame for something like this to die without proper discussion and having it fit into our overall plans as a Legislature. Thank you.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
Thank you. To the principle of the motion. Mr. Picco, you have the right to have the right to have the last stand on your motion.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do have the right of last reply, and I would call for a recorded vote at the proper time. Mr. Speaker, we rushed some bills through this House and there probably wasn't enough debate. One of the knocks on this Assembly is that we don't do things in a
public forum. If you want to debate this motion, we can stand up and debate it right now. I don't see any need to have further discussion outside the House. If we want to do some public debate, let's debate it right now here in public and let the people decide. It's only a simple motion, Mr. Speaker, on should we be tabling contracts, should we be tabling contracts negotiated and sole-source for this government. I don't see any problems with that.
--- Interjection
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Yes, we are. We have them, I see them. I see them over here, look, but can you tell me which ones are sole-source and which ones are negotiated? I don't see them, Mr. Speaker, and that's my point.
I have a right to last reply, debate is not over and I can speak to the reply. I request a recorded vote and I would thank my colleagues for giving me the opportunity.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
Mr. Miltenberger, point of order.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
Page 311
Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, maybe it's more a point of clarification. Once the mover speaks twice, is that it for any further debate or question for people speaking to the motion?
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
Page 311
The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
I have gone around the House to see if there were any further comments to the motion. There were none, so I have called the mover of the motion to make the final stand on the motion. That applies to the rules of the House. The honourable Member is seeking a recorded vote. All those in favour of the motion, please rise.
Recorded Vote
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
Page 311
Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Picco, Mr. Ootes, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Steen, Mr. O'Brien.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
Thank you. All those against the motion, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
Page 311
Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Evaloarjuk, Mr. Barnabas, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Henry, Mr. Ng, Mrs. Thompson, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Todd, Mr. Arlooktoo, Mr. Dent.
Motion 7-13(3): Public Disclosure Of Contracts And Public Sector Salaries, Carried
Item 17: Motions
Page 311
The Deputy Speaker John Ningark
Thank you. The result of the vote is five in favour, zero against and 17 abstaining. The motion is carried.
--- Carried
Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act; Bill 11, Appropriation Act, 1996-97; Committee Report 1-13(3), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 1996-97 Main Estimates; Committee Report 2-13(3), Standing Committee on Infrastructure Report on the Review of the 1996-97 Main Estimates; Committee Report 3-13(3), Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development Report on the Review of the 1996-97 Main Estimates; and, Committee Report 4-13(3), Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the Review of the 1996-97 Main Estimates, with Mr. Steen in the chair.
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
I will call the committee to order. We left off on the main estimates on Wednesday, May 8th, with program summary, Education, Culture and Employment. I wonder if the committee would like to finish this off before we continue on, or would you like to take a break first. Mr. Henry.
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would propose a 10-minute break.
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
We will take a 10-minute break then, when we return, we'll start on page 14-11, operations and maintenance, program summary, Education, Culture and Employment.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 312
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
I will call the House to order. We will be dealing with Bill 11, program summary, Education, Culture and Employment. Operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance ... I'm sorry, I apologize to the Minister. Mr. Dent, would you like to bring in witnesses?
--- Ringing of bells
I recognize a quorum. We are on program summary, Education, Culture and Employment, operations and maintenance, page 14-11. 1 had asked the Minister, Mr. Dent, if he would like to bring in witnesses.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 312
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 312
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort in the witnesses.
Mr. Dent, would you like to introduce your witnesses?
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my left, I have the acting deputy minister of the department, Mr. Eric Colbourne; and, on my right, I have our director of finance and administration, Mr. Paul Devitt.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Dent. We are on operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $257.895 million. Agreed?