Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I'm quite pleased with the programs that the government has come out with, with regard to colleges and training for adults. I'm also quite impressed with the department's make-work programs, where social dollars are turned into training dollars. I would also support further activities in this area. I think there is lots more room for expansion in this particular area. The people in my region would prefer to work on training programs and, at the same time, construct some forms of infrastructure that are needed, through the colleges, rather than take social dollars. I think the department should look at further expansion of Arctic College in Inuvik that would basically work towards addressing this request from the people.

I also have questions regarding the $40 million that has been announced by the feds for the Nunavut territory for training purposes. I note that this government has identified $44 million this year in this budget for Nunavut land claim implementation. I presume this is the same program. Maybe I could get some clarification from the Minister on that point.

The other point I have is I presume that our colleges are operating just about on maximum at this point in time. I'm beginning to wonder where we could possibly accommodate the federal government to implement $40 million worth of further training in the Nunavut area. Do we have the facilities? If we have already filled up all of Arctic College with our programs, how can we expend this different money to be able to address this training requirement before 1999? 1 don't know if the Minister is prepared to answer that at this point in time.

I guess the real question is is there room to accommodate the feds if, in fact, the $40 million that they're talking about is different than the training programs we already have in preparation for Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, could the Minister give us a brief explanation as to what this Nunavut land claim implementation money is?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It would be difficult for me, in particular, to answer what it is. This is money that has been announced by the federal government as being available for incremental funding. At this point in time, I don't know how those funds are going to be handled. There will have to be $39.8 million. We don't know ... I get from the Member's signals that he's referring to the $44 million. Perhaps, Mr. Chairman, I could ask for clarification? Is that $44 million the Member refers to in the Department of Education, Culture and Employment budget?

Mr. Chairman, I'm referring to the money identified on page 14-32. It's referring to Nunavut land claim implementation money. My question is how much of that $44 million is education money, if any?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $44 million that the Member is referring to on page 14-32 is $44,000, not $44 million. This is vote 4/5, which means that this money is provided by the federal government.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at the present time, we're not sure that there is a lack of space in the schools in Yellowknife. We are proposing that a collaborative process take place, which would involve the two Yellowknife school boards, the French parents ... the conseil scolaire for Yellowknife, as well as the residents of Ndilo, in a process to map out what is needed in terms of capital development in Yellowknife. The situation is such that we believe that there's only about an 80 per cent usage overall of the facilities in Yellowknife, which does leave some room for expansion in the population; probably as fast as housing could expand in the town easily. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, as was noted in the standing committee's response to the department's business plan, we have changed our approach in how the school spaces are funded and how we provide space in schools for communities. The new policy is that for one student there is one space. The Member appears to be absolutely right: that if you take out the old St. Patrick High School, the level of utilization would approach 92 per cent. That still leaves 322 seats available, which is a fair number of seats for an influx. As I said, we can deal with an influx if that is what happens. I don't know that we would necessary build for dramatic growth without knowing that it was going to happen.

The Member asked about renovations for the old St. Patrick High School. That will be one of the considerations of the group that we are proposing to put together in terms of how capital dollars will be spent in Yellowknife in the next few years. We have a limited number of capital dollars available. We want the community to know what those dollars are and let the community and the elected officials in the community determine how those capital dollars should be spent.

Over the course of six years, it is $16 million or $17 million that we have identified in the five-year plan. The question is how that should be spent. I can't say that the money is going to go one place or another. As I noted in my opening comments, there has been a reduction in the capital plan throughout the department of $10 million this year alone. Over the course of the next three years, we are going to have $30 million less than what we had when the last five year plan was published. That means there are going to be significant impacts in all communities as to the timing of what was seen in the previous five-year plan. The previous five-year plan is no longer what we are working from. I can't make the commitment the Member seeks. What I am hoping is that the school boards and the community will get together and determine how they would like to see the limited capital dollars we have spent in a collaborative process over the next few years.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The was no firm commitment made to that. It wasn't part of the deal that was signed off. I believe there was an understanding and an undertaking by the department that in the future, the facility would need to be renovated. It was in the previous five-year plan that I referred to and there was definitely an indication that funds would be made available. I don't know that we have said they aren't available; but given the magnitude of the change in what is available for the whole community and the need for us to take a look at how capital dollars are now being spent, it may be in the best interests of the community to reconsider all the options. The timing for the delivery of those funds is significantly delayed, if that remains one of the priorities of the board.