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Supplementary To Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister is well known as a canny and astute politician, and above all, very perceptive, when there are issues of money on the table. So, I was wondering why he cannot be clear in the dollar sense, can he give us the benefit of his perception and sense of the kind of relief that may be there, or willingness to discuss incremental costs?

Supplementary To Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, well, flattery will get my colleague everywhere. Anyway, no, I cannot at this time determine to what degree the negotiations will take place. Again, I want to ensure my colleague, and others around the table here, that there is clearly a commitment of the federal Finance Minister's office that we will move forward on a timely basis to work towards two new formal agreements. There is a recognition in the Finance Minister's office that incremental costs are going to be associated with these negotiations. However, the degree of incremental costs, and the additional bills it will require over and above the base, is still undetermined, because we still have not determined what form of government it is going to be, both east and west. I am optimistic and hopeful that in the coming weeks, not months, weeks, we will be able to get a much clearer picture to the degree of dollars that are required and the enthusiasm with which the current government, or any future government, will move in providing funding for us on the incremental side.

Further Return To Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
Question 67-13(4): Incremental Costs Related To Division
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq. Okay, Mr. Picco.

Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Item 6: Oral Questions

January 20th, 1997

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been some concern in my riding over the contamination, yes, the contamination of fuel oil with a certain fungus that can cause burner failure. Some Members of this House have also asked me about this. Maybe the Minister for NTPC could update me and this House on the status of this fungus, or biological growth, in the oil storage tanks that have contaminated the fuel oil in my community.

Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Corporation did encounter a problem with the bacteria late in 1996, in fuel in Iqaluit. This was discovered because of problems with one engine in Iqaluit. It was found that fuel filters had been clogged by the bacteria in the fuel. This bacteria apparently occurs naturally in almost all fuels, but tends to be inactive in the north because of our temperatures and it only becomes a problem if the temperature reaches a certain level and there is adequate water in the fuel. This has been found to be isolated right now, in Iqaluit, in one fuel tank. An anti-bacterial agent has been put in the fuel and the problem appears to be solved. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand that in some conversations with some people around this matter, that indeed the colder weather in the Northwest Territories seems to inhibit the growth of this bacteria or fungus. In this case, the fungus is actually present, and as the Minister said, does impede the generator. Can the Minister tell us what is the status now of checking on a regular basis to make sure that this is not occurring, as he did say, in his response to me, that the problem seems to have been fixed. Is there going to be ongoing checks of this, and maybe in other tanks, in the Northwest Territories, to make sure this is not occurring? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Corporation has advised fuel suppliers and the petroleum products division of the GNWT, to advise them that we have encountered the problem and to suggest that they monitor tanks, and that they may be responsible for it. Tests done in early January reveal that there are no problems with the tanks in Iqaluit. The intention is to monitor tanks throughout the area where the fuel, the same supplier of fuel, was used as temperatures rise in the spring, to make sure we catch any problem before it becomes serious. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I gather from that then the problem is not actually in the distribution of fuel through the fuel corridor through the fuel pipes. It is actually in the tank itself, is that correct?

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the bacteria apparently started to grow as it warmed up in the pipes, coming into the engines. It is not active within the tanks. What was found was that the bacteria had become active from one of the tanks only, and that is the tank that has been treated. So it would appear at this point in time that the bacteria is not causing any further problems in Iqaluit. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, of course the concern here would be that if it is in the fuel lines itself that are distributing fuel, it may infect the storage of the fuel for domestic burners and so on. Is the Minister assuring me now then that indeed in Iqaluit, private home-owners and the government housing association, do not have to worry? That their furnaces, if they are using that fuel, will not be infected by this fungus, this bacterial agent? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am only responsible for the Power Corporation. I can only make the assurance the Member is looking for as it relates to tanks which are supplied by, or to machinery or furnaces which may be supplied by tanks, under the control of the Power Corporation. As I said, the Power Corporation has advised the other agencies in the region that they should check for this problem. That is all that we can do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
Question 68-13(4): Fungal Contamination Of Fuel Oil
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 69-13(4): Criteria For Proposed Closure Of Delta House
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services. As I stated in my Member's statement, in the concern in the community of Inuvik, on the proposed closure of Delta House. I would like to know what the Minister and his Department used as criteria when developing this scenario, picking which centre to be shut down? Thank you.

Question 69-13(4): Criteria For Proposed Closure Of Delta House
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there were several factors that were taken into account. First and foremost, throughout the alcohol and drug residential

treatment programs that we finance, we had a high number of beds per capita. Compounding that, Mr. Speaker, was the fact that within the bed spaces that we did have available, there was also a high vacancy rate amongst those beds. Those are a couple of the first factors, as far as the need to remove some of the beds from the system. Second to that, in respect to how the Delta House facility was reached as the facility to be targeted for withdrawal of funds, it was because of the fact that it was the smallest of the facilities that we financed, it was the oldest facility that was out there within our system, and finally, Mr. Speaker, the fact that the location of the facility itself, lent to some program delivery problems from basing the treatment out of that facility, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 69-13(4): Criteria For Proposed Closure Of Delta House
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On one hand, we say we have the highest rate of alcohol related incidents in the Northwest Territories. Then we say we have the highest beds. Can the Minister tell me what the highest beds idea is based on?