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Supplementary To Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate that the Minister's department does do some monitoring of contracts. However, as a Member, I am not aware of the results of this monitoring. I am not sure whether his department monitors it or whether Mr. Kakfwi's department, which seems to be responsible for the BIP is monitoring it as well. But regardless of who is monitoring it, as a Member, I believe that we should be entitled to this information and, therefore, we would see whether or not the program is being successful. Right now I am referring to the BIP. Overall it would help Members to see where the large expenditures are in fact beneficial to local residents and local businesses. My question to the Minister is, if someone is monitoring, if it is his department or Mr. Kakfwi's department is monitoring this thing, are having in some instances where we have had to refuse BIP as it has been outlined in the contracts? In other words, did contractors live up to their commitments under the BIP? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am unable to answer this specific question at this time. Whether we do in the Department of Transportation, I am not aware of that. Like I said earlier, the Department of Public Works and Services do take on the contracting portion of it for us on our behalf, as they do for other departments in this government. I am going to have to consult with the colleagues to see if that is the case. That is the reason why I am unable to answer the question at this time. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Question 700-13(4): Provision Of Transportation Contract Details
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.

Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng. It is in regard to my Member's statement and also in regard to the reasoning that we are unable to fund a mammogram program in the Northwest Territories, especially for a territorial-wide organization to scan our residents to try to detect cancer at an early stage. Yet, time and time again, I stood up in this House, especially dealing with this particular Minister. I have asked for items that are of concern to my riding. I did again in a Member's statement and I find it ironic, that we have a study that is going on in regard to the Med-Emerg Report which I believe to date, and the Minister could maybe assist me on this one, in regard to the amount of money that we have spent to date on this study? Could he clarify if it has cost this government to date, $850,000?

Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is a draft strategic plan that was undertaken and developed by Med-Emerg International. The cost was approximately $500,000 for the plan and approximately $250,000 for some of the costs incurred as a result of carrying out the consultations and the development of the plan. Thank you.

Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, in regard to the mammogram program, I believe that they were looking for $60,000, yet were able to sole-source contracts such as this in a range of some $800,000. Yet the government keeps telling myself, the community I represent and the people of the

Northwest Territories we do not have money for their health care. We have money for consultations, especially southern consultants to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on studies, yet these individuals do not know what it is like to live in communities, having to go see a doctor in which you have to wait a number of weeks before you see one. It appalls me that we can afford to spend this kind of money. Also, why was this contract sole sourced to a southern company and not put out to public tender?

Supplementary To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Ng.

Further Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said in the past, it is because of the fact that this company had experience in the medical profession and could draw on bringing in the medical expertise in a timely fashion to put together the draft strategic plan which we needed to move forward with in planning some of the facilities throughout the Northwest Territories, and then guiding us in some of the reform initiatives and consultations to our partners and the stakeholders throughout the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. I would like to remind the Members, when you ask a question about your preambles, to not continue to do a preamble before you ask your supplementary. You should be asking your supplementary based on your preamble. Mr. Krutko, Supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the study that is going on and being able to find funds to assist or implement the hospitals in finding the equipment that is needed, such as a mammogram machine, assisting the doctors and the nurses in the communities to assist the residents to detect breast cancer, is that part of the study that is presently being done in the area of $800,000? Would that pay for a machine such as this?

Supplementary To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Ng.

Further Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is not a study that is being done, as I indicated. It is for the development of a draft strategic plan. The draft of Med-Emerg International is complete. As far as we are concerned, we are at the stage now where the boards have taken the document out to their stakeholders and are undertaking public consultations to find out to what the concerns are and if the initiatives and the direction outlined in the plan is an appropriate fashion to try to continue to steer the development and reform our Health and Social Services system. It is specific to strategic planning for Health and Social Services in trying to provide for two integrated systems, both in Nunavut and the western Northwest Territories, and then trying to integrate services on a community, regional and territorial level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Question 701-13(4): Cost Of The Med-emerg Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Steen.

Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 15th, 1997

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Speaker, over the past year we have, as an Assembly, discussed on numerous occasions and I believe even a committee was established which I was a member of, to look at the BIP and to review the terms of that particular subsidy. Mr. Speaker there were some recommendations that came out of committee of the whole which were put to the Minister's department, and I would like to know what are the results of those recommendations? Did the department accept them or were there any amendments made to the BIP?

Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must say that of all of us Ministers, no one was overly anxious to take on this job of tackling potential and possible revisions to the Business Incentive Policy. Each of the elements that make up the policy are rather contentious, hated and loved by different sectors and members of the public. There is the policy itself, which is neither black or white. It is a policy which in general terms, we believe, as a government, has brought enormous benefits to the people and the economy of the north, but it does need some revisions. I have been tasked as a Minister to undertake consultation to look at potential revision to the policy. I have done that. We have taken some suggestions from the standing committee, none of which were unanimous. I must add, none of the amendments that were suggested by the committee were unanimous. So I have the task of trying to come up with some proposed revisions, going to Cabinet with them, getting some blessing and to then take the proposed revisions out to the public for further consultation. I have yet to approach Cabinet to make the suggestions to the revisions in detail. Thank you.

Return To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen.

Supplementary To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate that nobody in Cabinet wants to make the changes, the understanding I get from the Minister's response. We are now into two years almost of this new government, with new ways of doing things. I was getting the impression that we are going to end our terms before anything happens. I wonder if there is some way that the Minister could put a little urgency on this matter? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I must remind the Member that I did not shrink from the responsibility. I did take on this task with all of the naivety of a Minister that thought he could deliver all types of only positive, amendment revisions that would be totally supported, by not only members of the committee but all Members of the Legislature and the general public. There is no such creature possible. The present policy has, on any given day, great numbers of supporters and also retractors as well. The revisions, in order to make sense, also requires that the public be quite informed as well as the Members of the Legislature about what the nature of the existing policy is in the first place and to get a fairly accurate assessment, an honest assessment, of what the benefits of the policy have been to date. I know that in many corners some people have been sceptic, some people have absolutely refused to believe that there have been any benefits derived from the implementation of this policy in the first instance. It has been difficult. One only has to recall the discussions at the standing committee stage to understand how controversial and difficult it is to arrive at even some remote assemblance of consensus, on any number of whole range of issues that this policy gives rise to.

Further Return To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen.

Supplementary To Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Question 702-13(4): Status Of The Business Incentive Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I agree that there was a lot of disagreement amongst Members on the Committee but there was one thing everybody seemed to agree on, that was the amendment of the grandfather clause, whereby large firms such as big airlines, Imperial Oil even, are listed as people who are eligible for BIP. I think the membership did agree that those large firms should be removed from the BIP list. There were some positive aspects of this whole operation. I am surprised that we have not moved on at least those that an agreement were on. So I will ask the Minister, if no one in the Cabinet wants to handle this, would he consider handing it over to me?

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